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Fluoride is even worse than what we thought
by Andreas Schuld9-19-2006fromRenseWebsite About the Author . Andreas Schuld is head of Parents of Fluoride Poisoned Children (PFPC), an organization of parents whose children have been poisoned by excessive fluoride intake. The group includes educators, artists, scientists, journalists and authors, lawyers, researchers and nutritionists. It is active in worldwide efforts to have the toxicity of fluoride properly assessed. For further information, visit their website at www.bruha.com/fluoride. In 1999 the US Center for Disease Control (CDC) released a glowing report on the fluoridation of public water supplies, citing the procedure as one of the century's great public health successes.1 Ironically, the same report hints that the alleged benefit from fluorides may not be due to ingestion:
"Fluoride's caries-preventive properties initially were attributed to changes in enamel during tooth development because of the association between fluoride and cosmetic changes in enamel and a belief that fluoride incorporated into enamel during tooth development would result in a more acid-resistant mineral."
The CDC report then acknowledges new studies which indicate that the effects are "topical" rather than "systemic."
"However, laboratory and epidemiologic research suggests that fluoride prevents dental caries predominately after eruption of the tooth into the mouth, and its actions primarily are topical for both adults and children."
The obvious question is this: How can the CDC consider the addition of fluoride to public water supplies to be a public health success while admitting at the same time that fluoride's benefits are not "systemic," in other words, are not obtained from drinking it? The truth, now becoming increasingly evident, is that fluoridation and the proclaimed benefit of fluoride as a way of preventing dental decay is perhaps the greatest "scientific" fraud ever perpetrated upon an unsuspecting public. Even worse, the relentless promotion of fluoride as a "dental benefit" is responsible for the huge neglect in proper assessment of its toxicity, an issue that has become a major concern for many nations. As there is no substance as biochemically active in the human organism as fluoride, excessive total intake of fluoride compounds might well be contributing to many diseases currently afflicting mankind, particularly those involving thyroid dysfunction. In the United States, most citizens are kept entirely ignorant of any adverse effect that might occur from exposure to fluorides. Dental fluorosis, the first visible sign that fluoride poisoninghas occurred, is declared a mere "cosmetic effect" by the dental profession, although the "biochemical events which result in dental fluorosis are still unknown."2,3,4 The quantity of fluoride needed to prevent caries but avoid dental fluorosis is also unknown.5 What is Fluoride? Fluoride is any combination of elements containing the fluoride ion. In its elemental form, fluorine is a pale yellow, highly toxic and corrosive gas. In nature, fluorine is found combined with minerals as fluorides. It is the most chemically active nonmetallic element of all the elements and also has the most reactive electro-negative ion. Because of this extreme reactivity, fluorine is never found in nature as an uncombined element. Fluorine is a member of group VIIa of the periodic table. It readily displaces other halogens--such as chlorine, bromine and iodine--from their mineral salts. With hydrogen it forms hydrogen fluoride gas which, in a water solution, becomes hydrofluoric acid. There was no US commercial production of fluorine before World War II. A requirement for fluorine in the processing of uranium ores, needed for the atomic bomb, prompted its manufacture.6 Fluorine compounds or fluorides are listed by the US Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR) as among the top 20 of 275 substances that pose the most significant threat to human health.7 In Australia, the National Pollutant Inventory (NPI) recently considered 400 substances for inclusion on the NPI reporting list. A risk ranking was given based on health and environmental hazard identification and human and environmental exposure to the substance. Some substances were grouped together at the same rank to give a total of 208 ranks. Fluoride compounds were ranked 27th out of the 208 ranks.8 Fluorides, hydrogen fluoride and fluorine have been found in at least 130, 19, and 28 sites, respectively, of 1,334 National Priorities List sites identified by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).9 Consequently, under the provisions of the Superfund Act (CRECLA, 1986), a compilation of information about fluorides, hydrogen fluoride and fluorine and their effects on health was required. This publication appeared in 1993.9 Fluorides are cumulative toxins. The fact that fluorides accumulate in the body is the reason that US law requires the Surgeon General to set a Maximum Contaminant Level (MCL) for fluoride content in public water supplies as determined by the EPA. This requirement is specifically aimed at avoiding a condition known as Crippling Skeletal Fluorosis (CSF), a disease thought to progress through three stages. The MCL, designed to prevent only the third and crippling stage of this disease, is set at 4ppm or 4mg per liter. It is assumed that people will retain half of this amount (2mg), and therefore 4mg per liter is deemed "safe." Yet a daily dose of 2-8mg is known to cause the third crippling stage of CSF.10,11 In 1998 EPA scientists, whose job and legal duty it is to set the Maximum Contaminant Level, declared that this 4ppm level was set fraudulently by outside forces in a decision that omitted 90 percent of the data showing the mutagenic properties of fluoride.12 The Clinical Toxicology of Commercial Products, 5th Edition (1984) gives lead a toxicity rating of 3 to 4 (3 = moderately toxic, 4 = very toxic) and the EPA has set 0.015 ppm as the MCL for lead in drinking water--with a goal of 0.0ppm. The toxicity rating for fluoride is 4, yet the MCL for fluoride is currently set at 4.0ppm, over 250 times the permissible level for lead. Water Fluoridation In 1939 a dentist named H. Trendley Dean, working for the U.S. Public Health Service, examined water from 345 communities in Texas. Dean determined that high concentrations of fluoride in the water in these areas corresponded to a high incidence of mottled teeth. This explained why dentists in the area found mottled teeth in so many of their patients. Dean also claimed that there was a lower incidence of dental cavities in communities having about 1 ppm fluoride in the water supply. Among the native residents of these areas about 10 percent developed the very mildest forms of mottled enamel ("dental fluorosis"), which Dean and others described as "beautiful white teeth." Dean's report led to the initiation of artificial fluoridation of drinking water at 1part-per-million (ppm) in order to supply the "optimal dose" of 1mg fluoride per day--assuming that drinking four glasses of water every day would duplicate Dean's "optimal" intake for most people. Now, according to the American Dental Association, all people, rich or poor, could have "beautiful white teeth" and be free of caries at the same time. After all, the benefits of water fluoridation had been documented "beyond any doubt."13 When other scientists investigated Dean's data, they did not reach the same conclusions. In fact, Dean had engaged in "selective use of data," using findings from 21 cities that supported his case while completely disregarding data from 272 other locations that did not show a correlation.14 In court cases Dean was forced to admit under oath that his data were invalid.15 In 1957 he had to admit at AMA hearings that even waters containing a mere 0.1ppm (0.1 mg/l) could cause dental fluorosis, the first visible sign of fluoride overdose.16 Moreover, there is not one single double-blind study to indicate that fluoridation is effective in reducing cavities.17 So What's the Truth About Tooth Decay? The truth is that more and more evidence shows that fluorides and dental fluorosis are actually associated with increased tooth decay. The most comprehensive US review was carried out by the National Institute of Dental Research on 39,000 school children aged 5-17 years.18 It showed no significant differences in terms of DMF (decayed, missing and filled teeth). What it did show was that high decay cities (66.5-87.5 percent) have 9.34 percent more decay in the children who drink fluoridated water. Furthermore, a 5.4 percent increase in students with decay was observed when 1 ppm fluoride was added to the water supply. Nine fluoridated cities with high decay had 10 percent more decay than nine equivalent non-fluoridated cities. The world's largest study on dental caries, which looked at 400,000 students, revealed that decay increased 27 percent with a 1ppm fluoride increase in drinking water.19 In Japan, fluoridation caused decay increases of 7 percent in 22,000 students,20 while in the US a decay increase of 43 percent occured in 29,000 students when 1ppm fluoride was added to drinking water.21 Dental Fluorosis: A "Cosmetic" Defect? Dental fluorosis is a condition caused by an excessive intake of fluorides, characterized mainly by mottling of the enamel (which starts as "white spots"), although the bones and virtually every organ might also be affected due to fluoride's known anti-thyroid characteristics. Dental fluorosis can only occur during the stage of enamel formation and is therefore a sign that an overdose of fluoride has occurred in a child during that period. Dental fluorosis has been described as a subsurface enamel hypomineralization, with porosity of the tooth positively correlated with the degree of fluorosis.22 It is characterized by diffuse opacities and under-mineralized enamel. Although identical enamel defects occur in cases of thyroid dysfunction, the dental profession describes the defect as merely "cosmetic" when it is caused by exposure to fluoride. What is now becoming apparent is that this "cosmetic" defect actually predisposes to tooth decay. In 1988 Duncan23 stated that hypoplastic defects have a strong potential to become carious. In 1989, Silberman,24 evaluating the same data on Head Start children, wrote that "preliminary data indicate that the presence of primary canine hypoplasia [enamel defects] may result in an increased potential for the tooth becoming carious." In 1996 Li 25 wrote that children with enamel hypoplasia demonstrated a significantly higher caries experience than those who did not have such defects and, further, that the "presence of enamel hypoplasia may be a predisposing factor for initiation and progression of dental caries, and a predictor of high caries susceptibility in a community." In 1996 Ellwood & O'Mullane26 stated that "developmental enamel defects may be useful markers of caries susceptibility, which should be considered in the risk-benefit assessment for use of fluoride." Currently up to 80 percent of US children suffer from some degree of dental fluorosis, while in Canada the figure is up to 71 percent. A prevalence of 80.9 percent was reported in children 12-14 years old in Augusta, Georgia, the highest prevalence yet reported in an "optimally" fluoridated community in the United States. Moderate-to-severe fluorosis was found in 14 percent of the children.27 Before the push for fluoridation began, the dental profession recognized that fluorides were not beneficial but detrimental to dental health. In 1944, the Journal of the American Dental Association reported: "With 1.6 to 4 ppm fluoride in the water, 50 percent or more past age 24 have false teeth because of fluoride damage to their own."28 The Wonder Nutrient? On countless internet sites, fluoride is proclaimed as the "wonder nutrient," the "deficiency" symptom being increased dental caries.29 It boggles the mind that a cumulative toxin and toxic waste product can be described a "nutrient." Nevertheless, such claims are repeatedly made by pro-fluoridationists.30 On March 16, 1979, the FDA deleted paragraphs 105.3(c) and 105.85(d)(4) of Federal Register documents which had classified fluorine, among other substances, as "essential" or "probably essential." Since that time, nowhere in the Federal Regulations is fluoride classified as "essential" or "probably essential." These deletions were the immediate result of 1978 Court deliberations.31 No essential function for fluoride has ever been proven in humans.32,33,34,35,36 "Nature Thought of It First" A popular slogan employed by the ADA and other pro-fluoridation organizations is, "Nature thought of it first!" The slogan creates the impression that the fluoridation compounds used in water fluoridation are the same as those discovered many years ago in the water in some areas of the US.37 The fluoride compound in "naturally" fluoridated waters is calcium fluoride. Sodium fluoride, a common fluoridation agent, dissolves easily in water, but calcium fluoride does not.9 Animal studies performed by Kick and others in 1935 revealed that sodium fluoride was much more toxic than calcium fluoride.38 Even worse, toxicity was recorded for hydrofluorosilicic acid, the compound now used in over 90 percent of fluoridation programs, Hydrofluorosilicic acid is a direct byproduct of pollution scrubbers used in the phosphate fertilizer and aluminum industries. Our government adds it to water supplies even though it is also involved in getting rid of its own stockpile of fluoride compounds left over from years and years of stockpiling fluorides for use in the process of refining uranium for nuclear power and weapons.39 In the Kick study, less than 2 percent of calcium fluoride was absorbed and this was excreted quantitatively in the urine. But even calcium fluoride is not benign. As the animals given calcium fluoride also developed mottled teeth, it was clear that such compounds could produce changes on the teeth merely by passing through the body, and not by being "stored in a tooth" or anywhere else. No calcium fluoride was retained. In 1946 Samuel Chase, one of the authors of the Kick study, became president of the International Association for Dental Research (IADR). This organization promoted the idea that only the fluoride ion in the various fluoridation compounds was of importance. Yet he well knew that sodium fluoride did not behave like calcium fluoride. Unlike calcium fluoride, sodium fluoride was retained in great amounts in the body and was very toxic. Rock phosphate and hydro-fluorosilicic acid experiments yielded the same information. New areas with "natural" fluoride are appearing all over the world, as now all areas not "artificially" fluoridated are considered "natural." The problem is that this "natural" fluoride is the result of direct water and soil contamination from petrochemical land treatment, uncontrolled fertilizer use, pesticide applications, ground water contamination from industrial waste sites, rocket fuel "burial grounds," and so forth. Suddenly we have "natural" fluorides showing up in areas previously deemed "fluoride deficient"! Total Intake It is well established that it is TOTAL fluoride intake from ALL sources which must be considered for any adverse health effect evaluation.40,41,42 This includes intake by ingestion, inhalation and absorption through the skin. In 1971, the World Health Organization (WHO) stated:
"In the assessment of the safety of a water supply with respect to the fluoride concentration, the total daily fluoride intake by the individual must be considered."41
Exposure to airborne fluorides from many diverse manufacturing processes--pesticide applications, phosphate fertilizer production, aluminum smelting, uranium enrichment facilities, coal-burning and nuclear power plants, incinerators, glass etching, petroleum refining and vehicle emissions--can be considerable. In addition, many people consume fluorine-based medications such as Prozac, which greatly adds to fluoride's anti-thyroid effects. ALL fluoride compounds--organic and inorganic--have been shown to exert anti-thyroid effects, often potentiating fluoride effects many fold.43 Household exposures to fluorides can occur with the use of Teflon pans, fluorine-based products, insecticides sprays and even residual airborne fluorides from fluoridated drinking water. Decision-makers at 3M Corporation recently announced a phase-out of Scotchgard products after discovering that the product's primary ingredient--a fluorinated compound called perfluorooctanyl sulfonate (PFOS)--was found in all tested blood bank examinations.44 3M's research showed that the substance had strong tendencies to persist and bio-accumulate in animal and human tissue. In 1991 the US Public Health Service issued a report stating that the range in total daily fluoride intake from water, dental products, beverages and food items exceeded 6.5 milligrams daily.42 Thus, the total intake from those sources alone already greatly exceeds the levels known to cause the third stage of skeletal fluorosis. Besides fluoridated water and toothpaste, many foods contain high levels of flouride compounds due to pesticide applications. One of the worse offenders is grapes.45 Grape juice was found to contain more than 6.8 ppm fluoride. The EPA estimates total fluoride intake from pesticide residues on food and fluoridated drinking water alone to be 0.095 mg/kg/day, meaning a person weighing 70 kg takes in more than 6.65 mg per day.45b Soy infant formula is high in both fluoride and aluminum, far surpassing the "optimal" dose46,47 and has been shown to be a risk factor in dental fluorosis.48 Tea In their drive to fluoridate the public water supplies, dental health officials continue to pretend that no other sources of fluoride exist. This notion becomes absurd when one looks at the fluoride content in tea. Tea is very high in fluoride because tea leaves accumulate more fluoride (from pollution of soil and air) than any other edible plant.49,50,51 It is well established that fluoride in tea gets absorbed by the body in a manner similar to the fluoride in drinking water.49,52 Fluoride content in tea has risen dramatically over the last 20 years due to industry contamination. Recent analyses have revealed a fluoride content of 17.25 mg per teabag or cup in black tea, and a whopping 22 mg of soluble fluoride ions per teabag or cup in green tea. Aluminum content was also high--over 8 mg. Normal steeping time is five minutes. The longer a tea bag steeped, the more fluoride and aluminum were released. After ten minutes, the measurable amounts of fluoride and aluminum almost doubled.53 A website by a pro-fluoridation infant medical group states that a cup of black tea contains 7.8 mgs of fluoride54 which is the equivalent amount of fluoride from 7.8 liters of water in an area fluoridated at 1ppm. Some British and African studies from the 1990s showed a daily fluoride intake of between 5.8 mgs and 9 mgs a day from tea alone.55, 56, 57 Tea has been found to be a primary cause of dental fluorosis in many international studies.58-70 In Britain, over three-quarters of the population over the age of ten years consumes three cups of tea per day.71Yet the UK government and the British Dental Association are currently contemplating fluoridation of public water supplies! In Ireland, average tea consumption is four cups per day and the drinking water is heavily fluoridated. Next to water, tea is the most widely consumed beverage in the world. Tea can be found in almost 80 percent of all US households and on any given day, nearly 127 million people--half of all Americans--drink tea.71 The high content of both aluminum and fluoride in tea is cause for great concern as aluminum greatly potentiates fluoride's effects on G protein activation,72 the on/off switches involved in cell communication and of absolute necessity in thyroid hormone function and regulation. Fluoride and the Thyroid The recent re-discovery of hundreds of papers dealing with the use of fluorides in effective anti-thyroid medication poses many questions demanding answers.73,74 The enamel defects observed in hypothyroidism are identical to "dental fluorosis." Endemic fluorosis areas have been shown to be the same as those affected with iodine deficiency, considered to be the world's single most important and preventable cause of mental retardation,75 affecting 740 million people a year. Iodine deficiency causes brain disorders, cretinism, miscarriages and goiter, among many other diseases. Synthroid, the drug most commonly prescribed for hypothyroidism, became the top selling drug in the US in 1999, according to Scott-Levin's Source Prescription Audit, clearly indicating that hypothyroidism is a major health problem. Many more millions are thought to have undiagnosed thyroid problems. Environment Every year hundreds and thousands of tons of fluorides are emitted by industry. Industrial emissions of fluoride compounds produce elevated concentrations in the atmosphere. Hydrogen fluoride can exist as a particle, dissolving in clouds, fog, rain, dew, or snow. In clouds and moist air it will travel along the air currents until it is deposited as wet acid deposition (acid rain, acid fog, etc.) In waterways it readily mixes with water. Sulfur hexafluoride (SF6), emitted by the electric power industry, is now among six greenhouse gases specifically targeted by the international community, through the Kyoto protocol, for emission reductions to control global warming. The others are carbon dioxide, hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs), perfluorocarbons (PFCs), methane and nitrous oxide (N2O). SF6 is about 23,900 times more destructive, pound for pound, than carbon dioxide over the course of 100 years. EPA estimates that some seven-million metric tons of carbon equivalent (MMTCE) escaped from electric power systems in 1996 alone. The concentration of SF6 in the atmosphere has reportedly increased by two orders of magnitude since 1970. Atmospheric models have indicated that the lifetime of an SF6 molecule in the atmosphere may be over 3000 years.76 The ever-increasing fluoride levels in food, water and air pose a great threat to human health and to the environment as evidenced by the endemic of fluorosis worldwide. It is of utmost urgency that public health officials cease promoting fluoride as beneficial to our health and address instead the issue of its toxicity. REFERENCES(All web addresses were visited before Fall, 2000)
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Symptoms of Fluoride Poisoning
· Black tarry stools · Bloody vomit · Faintness · Nausea and vomiting · Shallow breathing · Stomach cramps or pain · Tremors · Unusual excitement · Unusual increase in saliva · Watery eyes · Weakness · Constipation · Loss of appetite · Pain and aching of bones · Skin rash · Sores in the mouth and on the lips · Stiffness · Weight loss · White, brown or black discoloration of teeth
Long Term Effects of Fluoride
· Accelerated aging · Immune system dysfunction · Compromised collagen synthesis · Cartilage problems · Bony outgrowths in the spine · Joint "lock-up"
G Proteins
Signals or communications from one cell to another, and from the outside of the cell to the inside, are made possible by the action of special proteins called "G" proteins, which are found in all animal life, including yeasts. G proteins are so called because they bind to guanine nucleotides, a major component of DNA and RNA. G proteins mediate the actions of neurotransmitters, peptide hormones, odorants and light. In other words, G proteins make it possible for our nervous systems to function properly and, in particular, allow for night vision and the sense of smell.
All thyroid function is mediated by G-protein activity. Both aluminum and fluoride interfere with the activation of G proteins. Thyrotropin, the thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH), is considered the natural G-protein activator. Its action is mimicked by fluoride and vastly potentiated by the presence of aluminum. Pharmacologists estimate that up to 60 percent of all medicines used today exert their effects through G-protein signaling pathways. Vitamin A from cod liver oil has been used successfully to bypass blocked G-protein pathways due to vaccination damage. (See Autism and Vaccinations.) Myristic acid, a saturated fatty acid having 14 carbons, plays an important roll in G-protein function as these signaling proteins require myristic acid added to one end of the protein. (See Kidney Fats.) Thus, diets deficient in vitamin A and saturated fats can be expected to contribute to nervous disorders and vision problems.
That sounds like an excellent adventure. What’s the coolest thing that you’ve found since you moved in?
A few things! I was cleaning up the original general store (which opened around 1891) and in the way back, under tons of old furniture, I found this old briefcase. It was wrapped in a blanket and shoved under one of the original counters in the store.
It was FULL of documents surrounding the lives of 3 different miners. Their highs (love letters, mining claims, selling silver) and their lows (divorce settlements, lawsuits over unpaid bills, and letters to friends). I really liked that glimpse into life back then. There was even a map outlining SOMETHING on the property that one had recieved. I've been working for a few months to figure out exactly where the map leads and why. It's like a treasure hunt.
Also almost everyday I explore the abandoned mines. There are over 30 miles of mines under the town. I find all sorts of things from the past, and I really like it. I keep them all in this small 'museum' I'm making. Dynamite boxes, old clothing, pocketwatches, etc.
What I really want to find is Levi Jeans. Levi's made the first blue jean for California silver miners in 1873. They are THE thing to find for denim collectors and Levi corporate can buy them back for close to $100k because they're so rare.
They've found original Levi's here before in the mines and in the buildings. So I know they're here. I just have to find them.
It's become a personal quest.
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I was wondering if you’ve found anything related to Chinese migrants working in the mines? The Museum of Asian Americans in NYC has (or had, last time I visited) a cool exhibition about migrant workers in California, they could be interested in pictures!
Recently I found two old Chinese coins that apparently are from 300 years ago. They were in a part of the town that the Chinese miners lived in stone shacks. You can see photos of them in here
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You need to invest in a metal detector.
I have one! I found some cool old Chinese coins with it a month or so ago...
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Thanks for the great reply! So much history for you to discover. Hope the treasure hunt brings some more interesting things to light. An old pair of Levi’s would be great. Are you sharing photos or keeping that low-key?
I have some photos of what I find on my Instagram. I'll post more tomorrow. I actually found some cool stuff in a mine earlier today: https://www.instagram.com/brentwunderwood/
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Wild. Is there concern about the air quality in the mine? Do you have an air sensor?
I bring a 4 gas monitor with me into the mines
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Wait is Cerro Gordo the location that Jeff Goldblum visits to find old denims for his Disney+ show?
Yeah! I was here when they were filming. He's such a cool dude.
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I'd get a metal detector if I were you, a town being that old you could easily find a bunch of valuable stuff if it hasn't already been detected.
That’s the main thing I’ve taken from your TikToks - this dude really wants to find a pair of Levi’s!!!
Accurate.
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There was an episode about the jean hunter guy on Jeff goldblums disney plus show. Was the first thing I thought of when they asked you what you found. Was thinking it'd be nice if you got some jeans!
They filmed that episode here!
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Lolol well then. I'm preaching to the choir. So you met Jeff goldblum too? Or was that before your time? He seems like a chill guy
I met him. He was the best. Spent tons of time just sitting with me learning about the town. Even when the production people asked him to hurry up. Enjoyable experience.
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When you think life can't become an adventure stuff like this happen. Current quest: Find the Levi Jeans. Reward: $100,000
Yup
Do you have water, electric and sewer? If so will the current systems support what you’re looking to do?
I have electric. I don't have water or sewer. I use outhouses.
Water has been the missing puzzle piece here for nearly a century. The town used to use springs that were supported by Owens Lake. Owens Lake was drained as part of the LA Aqueduct program and that led to the springs drying up, and Cerro Gordo drying up. That's a big reason nobody wanted it really.
People have been trying different approaches for years to get water back - trucking up water, collecting, etc.
There is water that collects at the 700 level of the main mine shaft (so 700 ft below the surface). They once pumped water out of there to bring into town. That pump went out about 15-20 years ago. Nobody replaced it because of the danger involved in replacing it. To get down to the 700 level you have to use the original hoist and cage from 1865.
Over the past few months, I put together a crew, and we went down and replaced the pump. After that, we had to run 500 ft of new piping back up.
BUT, I can say for the first time in a few decades, Cerro Gordo (kinda) has water. The system isn't perfect right now, so I won't count it as total win yet.
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The LA Aqueduct is really interesting to read / learn about, definitely worth checking it out for anyone not familiar. If you've ever wondered how Los Angeles supports millions of people.... it can't. Los Angeles is only sustainable because of a giant aqueduct that starts in the Sierra Nevadas some 400 miles away. It's been a fight for just about every community in between that used to rely on those lakes, creeks and rivers.
Definitely. There is a book "Water Seekers" that I found up here that is interesting on it. Also the movie Chinatown of course...
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Cadillac Desert is also a good one to read on the subject.
Yes! That is the one I was thinking about but couldn't remember. Thank you
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Cadillac Desert by Marc Reisner too if you haven't come across it already! Edit: sorry other earlier post hidden until after i had posted. Bonus edit: Secret Knowledge of Water by Craig Childs is another good one.
Yes! So good.
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Rahdahdah: forget it, Brent. it's Cerro Gordo TheReelStig: Brent, please tell me you have footage or pics of the original hoist and cage you took down to replace the water pump. Please please u/hkaustin
Oh for sure. There is video in this YouTube video https://youtu.be/r9PPgAvXkEY around 28 minutes in. And I'll find some photos and follow up here
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Interestingly enough, and I don’t know how much I should actually write about this, but I was just promoted at my work to a position that directly oversees the rehabilitation of Owens Lake which is now effectively a dust bowl. The City of LA has a very poor relationship with Mono and Inyo County but I’m hoping to right the ship in this new position. Hope water one day becomes a non issue for you!
whoa! That hits very close to home. What is the plan for Owens Lake? Can you like put even 6 inches of water back across the lake? I feel that would not only look awesome but control the dust. Obviously I know nothing about how this actually works...
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Short-term, the name of the game is dust mitigation. Shallow flooding of the lake used to be a primary method of dust control but there’s been a recent shift to irrigation systems and vegetation (salt grass) which prevents dust pickup. Realistically, Owen’s Lake will not be a notable body of water within our lifetime. However, that’s not to say that the Lake itself loses significance when it comes to water conveyance. The reason the lake was drained in the first place is that the various watersheds that feed the lake were cut off and redirected. The best shot for your town to have potable water supply would be to find the nearest watershed by your town and work with Inyo or Mono County to access those resources. Since you plan to keep the population low, you don’t need a crazy water treatment system. You can even build a small primary/secondary treatment system yourself. The tricky part is building a trunkline that delivers the water to your city. There’s a lot that goes into it, and I don’t even know all the steps since starting a town is not common territory. But feel free to shoot me a message if you want more info!
Interesting! I'll shoot you a message. We have been trucking from Lone Pine, and the county is OK with that for now, but also exploring other options...
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I just started watching your YouTube videos a few weeks ago, and the first one I watched was about replacing the pump (it came up in my recommendations). This AMA is cool because I am familiar with everything you are talking about from the videos.
Thanks for watching them! I plan to make longer video of water process. It was very difficult and interesting (I think)...
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Have you monetized you’re videos yet? You’re getting lots of views. You could make some extra money that way.
I just started last week. I was nervous because I thought it would turn people off of the videos.
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Do you have any concerns over the water being contaminated? Do you have any process in place for testing it to ensure that it is safe for drinking, bathing etc? Just asking out of sheer curiosity. I am totally intrigued by your entire story and admire that you've taken this project on. I'm a huge fan of California's mining history and ghost towns so this is right up my alley.
We're testing it. I'm definitely not trusting it yet. It's off to a lab now being tested. I just use it to flush toilets and wash stuff for now...
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What about digging wells near the springs? The LA Aqueduc Program probably lowered the water table (level at which the ground is saturated in water) but I think it still may be kinda high.
The town is at 8,500 ft in elevation on hard rock. I've been told too far to drill...
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You are pulling water out of an old lead mine. Don't drink it unless you have it tested multiple times over an extended period. I'm not kidding. Lead poisoning is no joke.
It was tested when it was last pulled and I'll definitely be testing it again. It's already out to a lab
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Did I read it right. Did you go down a hole in a cage of 1865?
That's correct. Supported by cables from around then too.
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I’m not sure the budget it would take, but pumping it up to a large cistern above the town and combining it with centralized rainwater collection and solar to power the pumps might help. The fun people on Preppers have had some good suggestions for off-grid living, as do Homesteading
Nice! I'll check it out. Water is always on my mind here and I'm open to anything that might solve it for us...
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Maybe a silly question but have you considered using caving ropework techniques to move people and equipment around the mine shaft? People in the southeast US routinely rappel and climb 600' of rope. Takes 45 minutes to go up after you get used to it. There's a variety of rope haul systems from 3:1 on up. The professional version of this is SPRAT (Society of Professional Rope Access Technicians). I can't imagine having to use the original hoist.
Very interesting. Any videos or more resources on that? I've rappelled down a 120 ft mine shaft not too long ago, so I'm relatively comfortable with the process, but would want to learn more here.
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How much does it rain? Just put out a million pots and catch it. Jk but if it did rain a considerable amount, consider trying to collect some of it legitimately
I've thought about snow collection. There are some weird laws around it, but I imagine if I spend enough time I can navigate them...
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Bruh you bought a property this size with no water source?
Correct. And man has it been an adventure
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What was it like 700 ft down the shaft?!
A bit eerie. It takes a long time to get there and there is a decent amount of moisture. So I was ready to get back up after an hour or so down there...
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I am loving this AMA. What an adventure! Thank you!
Thanks for checking it out!
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I take it you need to know a lot about all the buildings in the town to do stuff like this no? Like how did you learn that their was water in this mine?
The water in the mine was rumored for a while and I met some people who had been down 20 years prior to work on the pump. Although most said it was too dangerous to attempt.
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Scary but awesome... Got any pics of the old equipment and you guys putting it to work running the new pipes?
Mine shaft water...have you had it tested for metals / contaminants?
It's out for testing now...
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The video of you going doing that old ass elevator was freaky
It was freaky in person too. That thing is ancient and sticks every once and a while.
Have you had any paranormal experiences? If so can you detail them?
I'll preface my answer with this - before buying the town I was firm nonbeliever. It wasn't something I believed in or thought about, so that element of the town wasn't interesting to me.
Since being here, there have been a number of experiences that have moved me along the scale closer to thinking skeptical, but not impossible.
One of my earlier days here I was walking by a building called the 'bunkhouse' from 1900. You have to walk by it to get to this nice sunset spot. As I was walking by, I noticed that the light in the kitchen was on and someone opened the kitchen blinds, looked out, and closed them.
It didn't immediately freak me out because there had been some people working on the property and I had just got there the day before. I thought maybe they were staying in that building.
So I went about my night and in the morning asked the caretaker, who was here at the time, how long the contractors were staying in the bunkhouse.
He kinda slowly turned to me and said they had left weeks ago.
That made my stomach drop a bit, but I'm a rational person, so I went over there to check for drafts or anything weird. I went in the bunkhouse, turned off the light, and put a padlock on the door (one that only I had the key to).
That night, when I went back to the sunset spot, the light was back on in the bunkhouse. Not just on, but the switch was flipped back up. Nobody has the key and there was no way to enter, so that combined with the 'face' I saw the day before freaked me out a bit.
Also just random stuff moving around without me moving them...
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Is the town "cleared"? Could be some drifter or kids poking around,
No other people. The final 7 miles to get here is up steep dirt road that only leads here. There were no other cars in town. So I'd notice if someone else was hanging around...
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Someone else said it, but not directly to you; you should check for carbon monoxide poisoning
Check where for that?
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It’s a Reddit reference to a story where this guy was blacking out due to carbon monoxide poisoning. He kept doing thing and forgetting when he blacked. He thought someone was sneaking around hits house but it was just him not remembering.
Ahhhhhh. lol. I'll have to find that story.
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You are probably being bombarded with mail right now and this is a weird comment to ask this on so I don't expect you to reply. Anyways! Is the electrical in your town original or did you replace it? Are you using the same infrastructure that was used over 100 years ago? I am assuming you didn't rewire all the buildings, so if that's the case it is amazing it still works! Also any other ghost stories? Love your channel by the way!
We recently rewired the majority of the buildings because of an electrical fire. 100 years of people tinkering with the electrical that shouldn't have been tinkering with electrical did not leave it in a good place.
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Oh wow you are still reading these!! Thanks for the response! Ummm was there any wire and tube wiring left? Also side question have you found any old communication equipment like a Marconi machine or other types of telegraphs? Thanks again so much for answering my question!
Knob and tube? Oh yeah, it's everywhere. We've been getting rid of it however. I found some old telephones, but I'm not sure how old they are...
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Have you made a video on more spooky natural events from there?
Not yet! Should I?
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You ever invite paranormal investigators to come down to do some investigation?
There have been a few that came. That show "Ghost Adventures" did an investigation/episode here.
I have been following you on YouTube. Super interested. I feel sure that at some point you will find a section of tunnel that is appearing to be flat, maybe some ceiling debris on the ground. Only to find out it's a lose covering of debris and truly you are over a vertical shaft hidden by that debris. Maybe supported by some old beams. Are there any precautions you take for this to hopefully not be a surprise you find? Are there pretty reliable descriptions or maps of the layouts of the mines?
There are maps of the mines. Not ALL the mines I check out, but some of them. I explore the mines a lot. Probably too much. Like every day I probably am inside an old mine for 2-4 hours. Doing that for 6 months has given me a better understanding of the mines, what to look for, what to look out for, etc. I also bring a decent amount of safety equipment with me now (which I stupidly didn't at first).
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Good to hear you're taking more precautions now. I watched your first couple of videos and thought "This dude's gonna get himself killed in the mines and nobody will know where to look."
I think the same thing when I look back.
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I’m glad you upgraded those new balance shoes for some boots through the first couple videos I watched 😜
Had to! Learning a lot out here haha
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What sort of safety equipment do you take when exploding mines? Like, gas detectors? I’d also always wondered how you can tell if an area is likely to collapse or not. Is collapse the main hazard?
4 gas monitor, helmet, rope, harness, knives, etc. I'd say bad gas is most dangerous because you can't see it. I usually go pretty slow back there and don't push it on collapse areas. But gas can sneak up and knock you out without you knowing it...
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Do you have any w-65 self rescuers or SR-100s or oxygen bottles? The idea of exploring old mines is facinating but there is a very real danger of deadly gasses and back falls. It sounds like these mines haven't been maintained for years.
I have a 4-gas monitor with me, but I don't have those two items. I will investigate adding those to the arsenal. That is a good call. Thank you.
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Now i’m curious. What are some red flags when you’re going in a mine? What are some green flags? Any near death experiences or “this isnt right” moments? I know you mentioned paranormal, which I personally dont believe too much in, but have you encountered anything like that?
Moisture makes me pause. It erodes the wood faster and can cause weird air. If the rock is really soft and lots of collapse, that isn't good. Whenever I have a 'this isn't right' I usually turn around. Lots of mines here is always my mentality. No reason to get injured in one that isnt' right. Although I recently went down to the 200 level mine here and it didn't feel right, but I went through anyways because it takes a crew to get you down there.
Congrats on owning a beautiful town! I virtually scouted Cerro Gordo as a potential location for an independent short film last year, a psychedelic Pakistani cowboy story. I never found the right place and the project stalled out, but revisiting images of the Cerro Gordo ghost town I’m again realizing it’s the perfect place. Would you consider having me film there? I can send you the treatment and reel. Update: whoa this got a lot of love, I appreciate it so much!! Thanks especially to everyone who expressed an interest in working on the film. Once I get things going I’ll reach out to you folks. This is a passion project and I would love to work on it w people who respond to the concept. Much love to all
Shoot me a message on Instagram!
I’ve made the drive up and down 395 at least 100 times over the past 30 years, so I’m somewhat familiar with the area. I’ve seen the sign to Cerro Gordo, but never even thought to take that detour. It would be cool to have somewhere interesting to stop. Do you see fighter jets flying around a lot? I used to see them a lot over Owens Lake, but it’s been a few years.
A decent number of jets. Sometimes they even give me a show. One day I was standing on our main porch here looking over the valley and down our road. Suddenly this jet comes zooming up the road. Only 20 ft above the road maybe. I saw him before I heard him and all I could think to do was wave, so he barrel-rolled over the town, then hit the burners and broke the sound-barrier once in Death Valley. I know they're not supposed to do that, but it was pretty cool...
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Please post any sort of jet videos you can please!!! I would LOVE to see that content!
I'll try, but they never give me a heads up before coming!
I had no idea this place existed. Time to binge watch all your videos, the two I've seen are absolutely fantastic. Other than monetary donations, is there any other way to help out? Cerro Gordo is 4 hours away and I'd love to help you and just see the place in person. I can bring lots of water and non perishables and take as much trash as I can before I leave. Plus I don't believe in ghosts, so it'd be cool to have a paranormal experience. This entire thing fascinates me! Thank you so much for sharing.
Yeah! We always could use water, nonperishables, and an extra set of hands sometimes. Shoot me a message on here on on Instagram?
I’m a mining engineer from Australia. Any plans to produce a computer 3D model of the underground workings under the town? We aren’t that far away in the industry from being able to use mini drones to automatically map underground ( think that scene in Prometheus for reference minus the stupidity). Also people are starting to use 3D printing for underground 3D plans. You might get some interest from the University in the US that teach mining engineering to collaborate on those kinds projects if you reach out to them.
That's a good idea! I'd like to create physical diagram too to show people
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I just read an article about using drones (specifically, the Elios by Flyability) for exploration/mapping of confined and/or potentially dangerous spaces! They look like they're pretty darn expensive, but it's really interesting technology, especially in application to something like these mines!
Very, very interesting. Thanks for the tip. I'll look into that.
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Can you post it on Thingiverse? Then we can all 3d print it!!!
Is that a subreddit? Can you link me?
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It’s a 3d printing website where people share models to 3d print. It’s pretty cool!
I'll check it out. Thank you.
How do you arrange EMS services, like hospitals, fire trucks, police, etc? Are you covered by the county services? When the road washed out, were you responsible for the repairs, or did the local government help out?
The final 7 miles to get to the town is up a steep dirt road. It goes from about 2,500 ft in elevation to 8,500 ft in elevation in that 7 miles.
That road is technically a 'utility road' because the FAA uses it to get to a watchtower on a neighboring road.
So technically the county maintains it. However, the timeline on that maintenance is never guaranteed....
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Good purchase! I’ve ridden my dirt bike down that road several years ago. Gnarly switchbacks with a great view! I will check out your YouTube and follow along. Enjoy your new town - !
Thank you! Did you ever do the Swansea Salt Tram road? Now THAT is a gnarly road that starts here in town
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Thats the one. Kinda sketchy on a KTM 950. 😬😬
A dude in a camper truck rolled off the road like a month ago. Definitely sketchy.
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Do you have any amenities? How do you get your food? Are you considering any environmental friendly sources of energy to power your town?
I get my food from Lone Pine, which is about 1 hour or 1.5 hours each way. I'd love to use solar more in the future! The town is hooked to the electric grid already.
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Why not reach out to u/ElonMuskOfficial and see if he’ll be willing to help?
Paging u/ElonMuskOfficial - please help!
What kind of stuff fills your days there? And what have you got in the ways of supplies/ways to get supplies - I seem to remember you saying you were sick of beans pretty early on.
I wake up, feed the animals (goats and kittens). Make breakfast. Check/send emails for an hour or two. Go work on the property for a while (currently I'm clearing a site that I hope to build a new cabin on). Then I come back for lunch/more emails. In the late afternoon I leave the phone behind and go hiking to find an abandoned mine or some other cool thing out there. Treasure hunting. Then I come back, make dinner. Maybe look at the stars for a while. Go to bed.
In terms of supplies, I go to 'town' every 2 weeks or so to load up. After being here 6 months, I've gotten better at planning long stretches with no grocery runs...
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Why leave your phone behind? Would be good to call 911 if needed, no?
Reception doesn't really work. And there is nobody bothering me or me not being present by checking phone for anything...
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By “town” do you mean Lone Pine?
Correct
I was devastated to see the old american hotel burn down, and ended up contributing to the gofundme. Are you still waiting for permits to continue the construction? Love the channel btw. Say hi to the goats from me :)
Oh, wow. Thank you so much. That means a ton.
I'm happy to say that on Sept 23rd, we got unanimous approval in a public hearing to rebuild and operate the hotel. So we have permits in hand and are working everyday to get this thing back by next summer. Winter is coming quick however...
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If you own the town, I assume “unanimous approval” means you just said yes to yourself and Approved!
haha, well, this had to go to the county level because of the permits involved, so the county commissioners and such.
Although I can see how that would seem ridiculous if it was just me...
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You just standing in front of a mirror: “All in favor, say ‘aye.’” “Aye!” “All opposed, say ‘nay.’” ... “And since this is a ceremonial vote, and only my word matters, the measure passes!”
Unanimously
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Can someone explain why you would need a permit to build something on your own land?
California
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That’s wonderful news!! I purchased a nail from the hotel from you guys and it’s a cool little piece of history and a little bit towards your rebuilding. I look forward to visiting when you have things settled, watching your videos all the time - be careful in those mines!
Oh, thank you! I appreciate that. That goes a long way in helping. It really is a piece of American history too. Thanks for supporting.
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Listen man once you get that hotel set up I wouldn't mind putting my hat in if you need some front desk workers. I've been looking for a change of scenery anyway.
Cool! Well, hopefully next summer...
Will you sell/rent houses to people once everything is restored?
Hopefully rent on short term basis, eventually. I think part of the beauty of the town is the space and stillness, so always want to be conscious of how many people are up here at any time.
But I think it would be really cool to let people stay in some of the original buildings. Like the house that the founder of the town built, etc. It's interacting with history in an interesting way.
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I'd like to suggest you also list your town on Harvest Hosts for RVers - no utility hookups necessary (but always appreciated).
The final 7 miles to get up here is really difficult. Dirt mountain road that increases in elevation 6,000 ft during that 7 miles. I don't think it would be super easy for RVers to get up here. But maybe I'm wrong?
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Make it a reddit town. Each building is a different subreddit. Only redditors can rent buildings/rooms. Logos everywhere. Reddit meetups galore.
I'd like to do a reddit meetup eventually. Just, pandemic, you know?
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Why not set it up as a ghost town Air BNB?! Id totally stay if I was ever in the area.
Pandemic and safety reasons for now, but soon! I hope. Maybe next summer?
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My great uncle bought a town in a different state. He restored the structures and turned it in to a big retreat. His clients are mostly organizations hosting leadership retreats and churches on youth trips. He’s had a lot of success and absolutely loves all that he’s done with it.
Nice! What is it called?
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420Prelude: Follow-up question, where did you get the money to be able to afford an entire town at your age (I'm assuming you're under 30 from the picture) and will you teach me whatever type of self discipline that requires. craftmacaro: Be born with parents who have enough money to get you started. There aren’t many other ways to reliably have a certain amount of money like this at 30 that doesn’t require at least some major factor of luck combined with talent and timing. Edit: this is in no way a comment against OP, just a simple observation that there is no “trick” to success... it’s always going to take luck, talent, opportunities, timing and effort in some combination. Besides already having money. There is also nothing wrong with being born with money... we don’t get to choose. The only thing I think is unfortunate is when those who are born with money don’t use it as an opportunity to do something they care about that wouldn’t be able to support them if they didn’t have that help. I think it’s unfortunate when being born with money spawns only a desire to make more money so your children can have even more rather than pursuing your dreams to follow a passion and hopefully (I think this is usually the case) most people’s passions are to do something that benefits something they care about (other people, wildlife, a scientific or artistically creative pursuit). Also, making sure your children will be able to have the choices you had is not an unfortunate choice either... I’m Talking about money for money sake, like having multiple millions of dollars and stocks and property and still being primarily concerned only with getting more and wanting the same from your children. And to reiterate, I don’t think this is what OP is doing.
Both my parents were public school teachers. They haven't provided me any financial supports since I was 18 or so and were never wealthy. The answer in my case was work a decent amount, spend little, meet as many people as you can, then bet big when you finally find something you really believe in. I'm 32. I've worked almost full-time through college and all that. Even if you don't make TONS of money, you can set aside a lot. It was mostly OPM that got this down. As in 'other people's money' - people that believed in me because they'd seen how I worked and done in the past. That isn't to say this is the route to take. I don't really have a retirement account. Or more specifically, I don't have ANY retirement account. That is the town. I pushed in all the chips.
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I really wasn’t trying to insinuate you were a trust fund baby, (and there’s nothing wrong with that if you were... unless I’m forgetting I certainly didn’t make a choice to be formed at any time between when my genes formed in my grandmother’s uterus/fathers balls and I was born...). Just that apart from what you mentioned (which definitely isn’t a get rich quick or method that would lead to a majority of people ending up with a town) there isn’t a “trick” to financial success. I think what you’re doing is really cool, I hope you have some environmental plans as well because you have an amazing opportunity to allow some people to study how certain species deal with an area abandoned by a human population. I’d love a chance to study/look fo and depending on where it is, take venom samples from snakes in your town if there are venomous snakes there. I imagine that the rodent populations could have yielded some interesting drives on composition compared to those found even a few dozen miles outside the town limits. I study medical potential of snake venom proteins. Anyway, I hope things work out! With population growth there’s going to be a lot more spread of humans into depopulated areas in the future unless something unforeseen happens, and you practically have a “bio dome” for what that might look like.
Thank you! Weirdly not too many snakes up here. Maybe it is because of elevation? Town is at 8,500 ft. I've seen a rattler in the road but way down closer to the start of the road.
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Oh yeah the elevation up there will keep the snakes away, a nice warm day though and you might see one. Did you grow up in the area? Not trying to doxx I just grew up in Bishop and think it's so cool someone bought this place. Do you know if they are still doing MoonTribe at the campground in near Lone Pine?
I don't know of MoonTribe, but I do like Bishop! I go to that bakery there whenever I can. I know that's more of a tourist thing, but it's still really good bread..
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Not meaning to question your point but you seem to suggest it’s just about working hard and spending little. To save up the amount you have over the 14 or so years you had the opportunity to, you needed to put away 7700 a month. There is more to that than “spending little, working hard and betting big” IMO. Interested to know how you managed this.
Oh no, I didn't pay $1.4M in cash. Like I mentioned, I had 'investors' as well as a large hard money loan to close.
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You gonna have a brothel?
Well, the town used to have 4, so maybe just for historical accuracy?
How has living alone for that long changed you? What's something you wish you knew when you first started?
I think I'm less rushed and more focused on things that matter to me. When I was living in a city, I'd always make up these tasks that I HAD to do. Run to the grocery story to get this item for dinner, go over to the Wal-Mart to get that. I think filling days like that is a way to avoid thinking about things you don't want to think about or avoid doing certain things you know you should.
Here I don't have those options, so I have to sit with those thoughts for longer. It helps clarify things...
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Do you keep a personal journal? It seems like a lot of what you do is publicly posted in one way or another, but do you keep something just for yourself? For those times you sit with your thoughts and maybe others will read someday long after you are gone, or you could order it get chucked down a mine after you pass.
For sure. I keep a lot to myself and keep a place to reflect more private thoughts. It's interesting to see what I'm thinking about change just over 6 months here. Not just subjects, as that isn't interesting, but way of thinking more like.
What are your plans for the town? Do you see this as largely functioning as a residential tenement or more of a revenue-focused tourist attraction?
I'd like for more people to experience the town's history and natural beauty. So practically, that means, I hope some people can stay overnight (in hotel or an original building) or they can come a take a tour of the property during the day. But with all that, maintain the history that makes this town what it is.
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Would you allow visitors at this point? I'm about three hours away, could I take a weekend trip? Would there be anything that you'd like a visitor to bring?
Maybe! Call or email first. Technically closed right now because of pandemic and I'm doing a lot of work to property, but sometimes it's OK if done outside/safely/etc.
I found your YouTube a few weeks ago. I’ve certainly enjoyed watching the adventure so far. How exactly did you find the town? Was it something you found by a simple google search or was it through word of mouth?
I owned a backpacker hostel in Austin, TX for a while. It was in a historic building, so I liked history/hospitality combo.
My friend knew I was looking for a 'bigger' project, and saw the town listed on a local real estate blog.
"You've hit another cargo ship? The Problems with the US Navy: Not all of them begin with "Seven" and end with "th Fleet".
RuleBrittaniaAmerica! America rules the waves! Americans will never be slaves! Welcome to yet another in my series of effortposts detailing the complex situation developing in the East Asia-Pacific Region, with today covering a portion of one of the biggest players--the United States, and, specifically, the United States Navy, which has decided that the best response to a massive naval arms race is to just go right out and decommission a large chunk of the fleet with no plans for replacements--not that they have much choice in the matter, as it was made for them in the late 1990s and early 2010s. I thought the condition of the US Navy was bad when I started this--but I didn't quite get just how dismal the outlook actually is, even with limited efforts being undertaken to fix some of these problems.
"You've hit another cargo ship? The Problems with the US Navy: Not all of them begin with "Seven" and end with "th Fleet"."
[preliminary, some variant on the pun thereof] China has a PLAN
Glossary: 7th Fleet = the largest fleet in the US Navy and the one responsible for East Asia AEGIS = Aegis combat system, the awesomest and most sophisticated combat system afloat by a mile, with only the latest Chinese destroyers beginning to come anywhere close, mostly used by the US Navy but also by Australia [full version] and Japan and South Korea [downgraded versions] SSN = Nuclear attack submarine, or just attack submarine [US only] or fast attack SSBN = Ballistic missile submarine, nuclear-powered, shoots nukes, part of strategic deterrent, also called boomer SSGN = Cruise missile submarine, nuclear powered, primary armament is cruise missiles--sort of overlaps with newer SSNs, which incorporate VLS [vertical launch system] tubes for launching missiles SSK = Diesel-electric attack submarine Guided-missile cruiser = Cruiser that mostly shoots missiles, usually larger than destroyers Guided-missile destroyer = Destroyer that mostly shoots missiles Frigate = Whatever's smaller than a destroyer but still used in the open ocean, multipurpose generally Littoral Combat Ship = Like a frigate except more expensive and more terrible in every single way Navy SEALs= Named for Sea Air Land, the SEALs are the Navy's "contribution" to American Special Forces, and operate in all domains, not just in a marine role Operational Tempo = Opstempo = basically the amount of stuff that the military is doing. Doing more with less means a higher opstempo.
1. Maritime vs Continental
This dives a little into IR theory, somewhat derived from one of the classics, Raymond Aron, a French thinker who is all too little known outside of France and the continent. I haven't read his stuff on this topic for a bit, so I may have forgotten some parts of this. In essence, Aron divides great powers into two types--the maritime and the continental. Maritime states are based around trade, openness, liberty, and other good things, and develop strong navies to protect their interests, particularly in trade. The Dutch and British were both maritime states, so was Athens, and, today, the United States, which has lacked a continental rival since the end of the Civil War. Continental powers, on the other hand, are more insular and autocratic, more focused on their army and their neighbors. Prussia, and later Germany, was one, as was the Soviet Union, and now China. While all of them certainly had navies, they were not top priorities--not key to their success. For the US, though, its navy is essentially the most important part of its armed forces, as only with the Navy can the US enforce its standards of trade, mount small expeditionary wars, and fight against foreign powers. The maritime domain is also the primary one through which power is projected. So as a result, the US Navy is really pretty important, all things considered--not just to the US, even, but to the entire world.
2. The Mighty American Navy
From the very beginning, America had a particular interest in naval affairs, due to a combination of its British heritage and a rapidly growing industry in fishing and commerce, centered around New England. The very first foreign wars fought by the US were conducted by the Navy against the Barbary pirates of the Mediterranean, and this naval tradition continued through the rest of the century, with the US Navy fighting pirates and opening new areas to American trade, from which the US has derived its wealth and power--most famously in its expeditions to East Asia, in which the US forced several nations--Japan most notably--to open themselves to trade at gunpoint. The US Navy only really came into its own, though, around the turn of the 20th century, as the US began to assert itself as a dominant power. The US already dominated merchant shipping and shipbuilding, and, beginning in the late 1880s, began building an absolutely massive fleet of pre-dreadnought battleships [sound familiar to anyone? This will probably be covered in the next post on China's navy]. The US Navy, in its modern incarnation, first tasted blood against the Spanish, in a series of lopsided victories against the declining power. It then went on to fight in the First World War, though never in a large set battle the likes of Jutland, and rather mostly as a counter-U-boat force. By the conclusion of the First World War, the US was one of the world's three great naval powers--the UK being the first and Japan the third. Shipbuilding was suppressed for a time by the Washington Naval Treaty, but by the late 1930s and early 1940s the Navy was the focus of American efforts to prepare for war, as shipbuilding takes substantially longer than most other tasks required in a military buildup. Then, of course, came Pearl Harbor--a dramatic blow that failed to cripple the US Navy and set it against Japan and, to a lesser extent, Germany. After a series of setbacks, the USN won a stunning victory at Midway [whether due to luck or skill, it is disputed] and from then on the US went pretty much undefeated to the end of the war, and, indeed, until the present. Lessons from the Second World War heavily influence American naval thinking even to this day, and some of them are the following:
The importance of the aircraft carrier as the primary implement of power projection
The requirement for the US to maintain a large presence in East Asia as to avoid having to fight in the deep Pacific again
The importance of the submarine fleet--not many people know that the American victory against Japan was greatly facilitated by a campaign by American submarines that was far more devastating than the German U-boats could ever hope to be
The importance of sensors--American ships with radar fire control wreaked havoc on old-fashioned Japanese opponents, especially at night
The importance of maintaining a large merchant fleet, shipbuilding industry, and mothball fleet
Since WWII, the US Navy has only come to blows a few times, and it has generally distinguished itself in each case. The USS Liberty survived repeated Israeli attacks, sustaining casualties yet remaining afloat. The USS Stark survived a hit from an Exocet missile, again demonstrating a very effective and strong damage control tradition [which seems to be a particular talent of the USN--see the fate of the Yorktown after being thought destroyed multiple times during the Second World War]. US warships have survived collisions with freighters and suicide bombings by small boats. They're tough, really tough--it's telling that even the highly capable Royal Navy lost four ships in the Falklands to missiles that failed to take out even a small American warship. The US has also done quite well in the offense, too, destroying Libyan and Iranian warships with relative ease [built by the Soviets and British respectively]. The US Navy has also generally been on the leading edge of naval technology--its AEGIS combat system and AN-SPY1 radar are unparalleled in capability, its ballistic missile submarines carry more missiles and are quieter than their peers, and, well, you get the idea. However, the US Navy has some serious problems.
3. Corruption
I'm using corruption in a fairly broad sense here. Our first, largest, and most pressing issue goes by the alias of "Fat Leonard", and, yes, this scandal is almost comical in its scope. In short, in exchange for steering contracts for naval services--everything from sewage disposal to sending in divers to search harbors for explosives--towards Leonard Glenn Francis, a Malaysian national whose 350lb [160kg] plus bulk earned him the nomiker of "Fat Leonard", officers in the Seventh Fleet [you're going to hear more about these guys] were provided with everything from cash to luxury vacations to visits from Fat Leonard's "Thai Navy SEAL Team" of prostitutes. 33 people were directly embroiled in the scandal, but what matters is who these people were--the top officers in the Seventh Fleet, and mostly flag officers at that. It also crippled the careers of hundreds of innocent officers who were merely in proximity to the guilty, who had to be investigated and were often not freed from suspicion for years afterwards. One admiral said the following: "China could never have dreamt up a way to do this much damage to the U.S. Navy's Pacific leadership." Then, we have the destroyer collisions. Yes, collisions plural. The USS Fitzgerald and USS John McCain, both Arleigh Burke-class destroyers from the Seventh Fleet, hit different cargo vessels in Southeast Asia in separate incidents three months apart. In both cases the problems were similar--a lack of sleep, poor leadership, and poor situational awareness. This showcased what many sailors had known for years--that the Navy had a culture issue, that lack of sleep was a serious problem aboard ships, that training was insufficient and leadership erratic, especially in the Seventh Fleet, which, anecdotally, most sailors seem to avoid at all costs. It also highlighted a problem which has been afflicting almost the entire US military--aging equipment and an excessive operational tempo. This humiliating chain of events showcased these problems to the entire world. After that, we have an array of problems. The Navy SEALs are by far the most guilty, and are, these days, despised in the military. In between everything from SEALs falsifying records and thus both covering up their cowardice and preventing an Air Force combat controller from receiving a Medal of Honor--this coverup was enabled by top brass, too, not just the SEALs--a group of SEALs raping a corpsman and thus getting the SEALs sent home from Iraq, and numerous other incidents, along with their tendency to hog attention, publicity, books and movies, the SEALs are so hated by other military members, even sometimes inside the Navy, that some might think about murdering a SEAL if they could get away with it--oh wait, no, that was the SEALs that murdered a Green Beret. But it's not just the SEALs. It's dog teams that hazed members and had at least two members commit suicide. It's submariners that placed cameras in the female showers. Now, it's not as if the other service branches don't have their problems and scandals every so often--but the Navy seems to be particularly guilty. Thus, we have our first problem. A rotten culture. But this is really only the tip of the iceberg of the problems the US Navy has right now.
4. An Aging Fleet
The US Navy, like most of the US Armed Forces, has been hurt pretty bad by the "Peace Dividend" of the 1990s, and also from spending in the early 2000s when naval matters were simply not a top priority. Since the Navy operates on a greater lag than any other service branch--it takes quite some time to build ships--this is especially important. Below are several platforms which just... aren't there, or are going to see major gaps. In particular, the US Navy is going to have a rough time in the late 2020s as several platforms age out. Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser These ships are probably still the most potent in the US Navy, aside from the newest Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, which are expected to replace them. However, they are proving expensive to maintain, and are beginning to hit their 35-year end of life--the Navy actually has some plans to decommission some of them early [which I actually support for reasons addressed later], but as things presently stand they are expected to all be out of service by 2030. In the meantime, only 11 Flight III Arleigh Burke-class destroyers are scheduled to take the place of this 22-strong class, which was originally to be replaced by a cruiser variant of the Zumwalt. Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer As if replacing the "Ticos" wasn't enough trouble already, the Arleigh Burke class also is reaching end of service life for the earliest production units, starting in 2026, and 13 are expected to be out of service by 2030 unless expensive service-life extensions are funded. This class was supposed to be replaced by the Zumwalt, but, instead, has been kept in production, albeit in modernized versions. It's also now the Navy's do-everything tool because it has no frigates or smaller combat vessels, except for the LCS, which generally doesn't work. Littoral Combat Ship/complete and total lack of frigates The Littoral Combat Ship program has been a fiasco, and the ships produced are pretty much useless--so terrible that the Navy has made up excuses to decommission four vessels barely a decade old, that the Navy doesn't want any more LCSes, and that there have been serious proposals to replace the Littoral Combat Ship with forty-year-old Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates. The fact that the only frigate currently in service with the US Navy is the USS Constitution has also been irksome to many. This problem, at least, looks to be finally solved. The US Navy has begun building a very capable frigate based on the popular European FREMM design, and is planning on building two ships a year throughout the 2020s [and rumors say that the Navy likes the design so much we may see as many as 60 of these new, cheap, small ships]. Los Angeles class nuclear attack submarine These boats are reaching the end of their service lives, and, despite Navy efforts to extend their service lives by up to ten years, they're wearing out and not much can be done about it. As a result of the fact that their successor, the Seawolf class, was cancelled after three vessels were constructed, and that the Virginia class until recently was not a high priority in spending, the attack submarine fleet is projected to drop to 41 in 2029, despite the US Navy saying that it needs 66 at the very least--and in my view that's a conservative estimate. Ohio class nuclear cruise missile submarine/ballistic missile submarine These boats are all projected to, very consistently, hit their 42-year service lives [already extended from design expectations] and will have to be retired starting in 2023 [2026 for the ballistic missile subs] and will finally all be out of service in 2039. In the meantime, though, in the mid-2020s the US Navy will lose one of its most potent assets--the Ohio-class SSGNs--only partially replaced by new Virginia-class submarines with the Virginia Payload Module, and will then have to spend on extremely expensive and resource-hogging Columbia class SSBNs to replace their current fleet. It is expected that the costs of this procurement program will amount to $100 billion, spent over the next two decades, and this is expected to have a serious impact on the entire naval procurement budget.
5. Budget Troubles
These mostly begin with the infamous budget sequester, but to a degree precede it. Budgetary concerns resulted in the cancellation of the Seawolf and Zumwalt class, along with a cruiser replacement for the Ticos, and thus interrupted spending for years. The budget sequester was the final nail in the coffin, making a dramatic cut to military spending, and as a result readiness across the entire force has been on the decline. In addition, the US Navy is approaching a perfect storm of poor budgetary conditions--it must pay more and more to maintain an increasingly elderly fleet, while also spending billions on modernizations, service-life extensions, and replacements. There is, as of yet, relatively little sign that it'll get adequate funding. The Navy has repeatedly tried to cancel refuelings and decommission ships early, and to stop LCS purchases, all to no avail. Without a major increase in funding, the Navy is, to be a bit melodramatic, doomed.
6. Lack of building capacity and mothballs
In the past, the US was one of the world's great shipbuilders, and maintained a massive merchant fleet. This is no longer the case. The world's largest shipbuilder is South Korea, a nation which is also able to build the equivalent of an Arleigh Burke, US weapons systems included, for a price half that of an Arleigh Burke. The second-largest shipbuilder is China, the third-largest Japan, and the rest of the world combined ranks behind these top three. The merchant fleet of the US is small, and its production capacity is quite limited--and mostly focused on building barges, riverboats, and smaller freighters that navigate the intercoastal waterways and the Great Lakes. The military shipbuilding capacity of the US is limited as well. The submarine industry, for instance, can only build about three nuclear submarines per year if stretched to the limit, so once the Columbia-class begin construction, only two new Virginia-class boats can be built every year--and that's largely why the submarine gap is a thing. If a war broke out, the US would have limited capacity to build new warships, probably having to turn to shipyards in Europe, Japan, or South Korea if available. In addition, in the past, the US maintained a massive "mothball" fleet of older ships, that could be restored to service relatively quickly if needed. For much of the Cold War, this mothball fleet consisted of large numbers of partially modernized Second World War naval vessels [the existence of this fleet was largely based on the US experience in WWII]. However, the once-massive mothball fleet [which also included resupply and logistics vessels] is now a relative minnow. At present, the mothball fleet contains a fairly substantial presence--two conventional supercarriers, nineteen Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates, three cruisers and two destroyers--but the only ships which seem to have a long-term future in the reserve are three Tarawa-class amphibious assault ships. There simply is no backstop for the modern US Navy. It is, however, a possible fringe benefit that the rapid retirements in the 2020s will result in a much more capable reserve force. As a result, at the moment, the US Navy has no room for error in a peer conflict. If its ships are destroyed, they have no replacements. Fortunately the US Navy has done quite well at preserving even tremendously damaged vessels, but in the case of war, it is inevitable that some will be sunk.
7. Where to go from here
My suggestion would be that the US Navy, paradoxically, "shrink to grow". It's already facing a massive wave of retirements--but the vessels in the fleet already are generally undermanned, and personnel are stretched thin. Retiring the Ticonderogas early, as the US Navy has floated proposals to do, and not refueling the later Nimitzes, would save billions of dollars, and allow the US Navy to focus on personnel and culture issues while working to rapidly build up capability--and also preserving a substantial reserve force, possibly with multiple supercarriers and guided-missile cruisers. These early retirements are things that the Navy really wants to do, so I suggest we let them, and amend the current US Code which requires the Navy to have 11 carriers at all times [or just have the executive redefine "aircraft carrier" to include amphibious assault ships]. I also strongly endorse the US Navy's plans to build a large new frigate fleet, and in my view their current plans are still too unambitious--we should indeed be aiming for 60 frigates, or possibly even more. I would also suggest that the Navy just go right out and retire the entire Littoral Combat Ship fleet, but politics likely make that difficult to impossible, even if a lot of Navy brass probably would like to see the LCS go die in a ditch somewhere. Bringing back the Oliver Hazard Perry class might even be a viable stopgap solution until new frigates are built. In addition, I have some proposals that the Navy is less likely to support. I strongly recommend that the US Navy bring back diesel-electric attack submarines, probably starting off of a foreign design like the highly capable Japanese Soryu class [in no small irony since the Japanese based their modern subs off of our diesel-electric designs], but also incorporating US tech like the modular Virginia-class sail and SWFFTS. Doing so is the only way that the US Navy can hope to close the gap, by building at least twenty SSKs, and quite possibly many more--a class size around forty might make reasonable sense--and diesel-electric subs bring with them other advantages. They're much more capable in littoral seas like the East China Sea and South China Sea, and are much cheaper to purchase and operate--a single Virginia-class with the Virginia Payload Module costs six times the price of a Soryu, and even accounting for higher construction costs in the US, would still be much cheaper. It would also allow the US Navy to extend the lives of its SSN fleet, which wears out quickly in those littoral waters. I am also of the view that the US Navy should seriously consider looking into light aircraft carriers, even really light ones like the Sea Control Ship that are built around the F-35B and/or UCAVs, that are built around sea control/area denial and anti-submarine warfare rather than as buses for marines. In a similar vein, if the US Army's ludicrous Long-Range Strategic Cannon project bears fruit, the Navy would be wise to look into using it as a naval weapon, and the Navy should also resume its work on Prompt Global Strike now that the INF treaty is gone. The Navy should also let go of its long nervousness of automation, which may be the only way to keep things running with fewer personnel and at lower costs, and also let go of the cult of the pilot [the Air Force really needs this, but that's a separate post] and ship-driver, embracing drones for use above, on, and below, the sea. The F-18 Super Hornet isn't bad, but it's not what the Navy should be buying when the focus is on a peer conflict. The F-35 should really be the sole focus of procurement efforts, even if it is more expensive. Finally, the US needs to make a serious effort towards reviving domestic shipbuilding and a merchant fleet. The Jones Act doesn't work and needs to go. Instead, the US should focus on subsidies for shipbuilding, and funding newer and more innovative construction methods--which will both increase capacity and possibly bring acquisition prices down for the Navy as the US gets better at building ships in general.
8. Conclusion
The Navy is in deep trouble, but if we act quickly it might be salvageable. A poor culture continues to cause problems for the Navy and particularly certain components of it, like the SEALs. Aggressive retirements are needed, but also aggressive shipbuilding starting now. The US Navy, no matter what happens, is likely to face an extremely serious capability gap in the late 2020s through early 2030s, and this time is likely to be exceptionally dangerous--if I were China, that would be when I would make my move, after my shipbuilding program was largely complete but before the US Navy had recovered from their wave of retirements. Also, if you're not in the US, and you're not in, say, China, you should be pushing for domestic naval expansions pronto, or supporting them, or whatever you can do on that front. The fall in American capabilities means that your navy might be expected to make up the gap pretty soon.
http://transformdrugs.org/the-phrase-drugs-and-alcohol-plays-into-the-hands-of-the-alcohol-industry-its-time-society-stopped-using-it/ The phrase ‘Drugs and Alcohol’ plays into the hands of the alcohol industry. It’s time society stopped using it. A few years ago Transform suggested to a senior civil servant dealing with drugs legislation at the Home Office that they should stop using the phrase ‘drugs and alcohol’, and replace it with ‘alcohol and other drugs’. He looked aghast, and said he wouldn’t even suggest such a thing to the Minister after the drubbing the alcohol industry Portman Group gave them over Minimum Unit Pricing. But there are lots of good reasons to do so, both in terms of policy coherence, and public awareness/education that alcohol is a drug, should be treated with due caution, and regulated accordingly. Which of course is why the alcohol industry opposes it. Mind your language Language is hugely important. The way we describe things shapes how we think, both consciously and subconsciously, and alters how we behave – as advertisers and politicians know. And sometimes misusing language can not only mislead us, it causes serious harm. Alcohol is a drug Alcohol is a powerful, toxic drug. Its misuse causes vast harm in the UK, being linked to 50% of police time, almost 9000 deaths and over 1 million A&E visits per year ; around 30% of child abuse; and around 1 million violent incidents including 35+% of domestic violence. So, given that alcohol is a drug, the phrase ‘drugs and alcohol’ is the equivalent of ‘fruit and apples’, ‘dairy and cheese’ or ‘metals and tin’. It is nonsensical – and yet few people or organisations use ‘alcohol and other drugs’ even though this is clearly correct. Why does this nonsensical phrase matter, and persist? Because building a linguistic chasm between ‘drugs’ on the one hand and alcohol on the other, is crucial to maintaining an otherwise unstable contradiction, not just in policies for different psychoactive substances, but in public perception about the hazards involved in drinking alcohol. And this has real implications for support for alcohol regulation, and delivering a health-based approach to other drugs. ‘Drugs’ are a ‘menace’ and a ‘scourge’. Producers, suppliers and users of ‘drugs’ are criminalised, demonised, and labeled with stigmatising language – junkies, crack heads, zombies. This drives those in need away from help, and means an enforcement-led approach, rather than a health based one, can be justified – with terrible consequences for public health, including record illegal drug-related deaths.  Meanwhile, alcohol is acceptable, it has been turned into a commercialised commodity, for sale to consumers, and its use is promoted and encouraged. Those involved in the alcohol industry are celebrated for providing tax revenue, and jobs. And alcohol users are simply drinkers enjoying a pint, or even connoisseurs. In whose interest? Whose interests does the phrase ‘drugs and alcohol’, and the policies it helps underpin, serve? The alcohol industry Preventing a switch to ‘alcohol and other drugs’ helps ensures their drug is not associated with other drugs like cannabis, heroin and crack, which would harm the image of alcohol. And potentially lead to the public treating it with more caution, while undercutting opposition to stricter regulation (for example proper health warnings). Ultimately this could lead to reduced sales and profitability. “[We object to] the phrase ‘drinking alcohol’ …being used alongside and equated with ‘smoking, solvent abuse, the use of illegal drugs and the abuse of drugs’. Alcohol, however, is legal, drinking is normal and most of the approximately 90% of the adult population who choose to drink have no problem with its consumption.” Portman Group
 This image is of a typical sign found in many pubs and bars that sell the drug alcohol. “It is a sad reality that Drugs are increasingly both consumed and traded in licensed premises.” How To Effectively Control Drugs In Your Pub Politicians who support the drug war and/or commercial markets in alcohol While this is beginning to change, historically some politicians sought political benefit by presenting themselves as ‘tough on drugs’ and demonising those involved with drugs as ‘evil’. While simultaneously supporting the alcohol industry – or even receiving support from it. Who already uses the phrase ‘alcohol and drugs’? Given the well documented influence of the alcohol industry on its policies, it is no surprise to find that the Home Office and the Department of Health have ‘Drugs and Alcohol’ divisions. Happily, this is not true everywhere. For example, Australia’s government has a national ‘Alcohol and other drugs’ strategy , and the US Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration uses the term ‘Alcohol, Tobacco, and Other Drugs’. In the UK the British Association of Social Workers has a pocket guide entitled ‘Alcohol & other Drugs’.  So will you join us in replacing the phrase ‘drugs and alcohol’ with ‘alcohol and other drugs’ whether you are an NGO, a policy maker or just in your day to day conversations? If you do, it will help protect people, rather than alcohol industry profits. December 3rd, 2018 Share This Information FacebookTwitterLinkedInWhatsAppTumblrPinterestEmail Search for: We are proud to be supported by  Home Contact Copyright 2020 Transform | All Rights Reserved | Registered charity number: 1100518 | Limited company number: 4862177 TwitterFacebookInstagramYouTube Close Sliding Bar Area RECENT TWEETS CONTACT US 9-10 King Street, Bristol, BS1 4EQ 0117 325 0295 [email protected]
HANX. Or Thanks or Tom Hanks has been Infecting just about just about every “fringe” event of sub-series of conspiracy communities. With all the hoopla surrounding him currently I wanted do dive back a couple years to some of the down right ODD things in connection with Mr Hanks. From the top I will mention the various point where Tom or connected parties showed up in the particular research I was doing. First big series of hanks sync weaving was to do when I was researching the Mandela effect and the prominent position Hanks has as a Nexus of effects. https://www.reddit.com/Retconned/comments/7lfka2/an_exercise_followed_by_examples_word_association/ If you are unfamiliar with the Mandela effect then essentially is a a series of pop culture points that have been altered or a wide collection of people have noticed a change from their memory of a particular specific point. Weather or not it is faulty human memory or something else is up for debate but what is not up for debate is the rampant and creative ways the Mandela effects connect to Tom Hanks. I made this post as a way of explaining how to play with words and symbolism, ways of looking at things as a puzzle. Here is a bit of what that looks like. Mandel means Almond, An almond is the Mandorla, Mandelas prisoner number is 46664 but used to be 4664 according to some. Cern is said to be responsible or at least involved in some way and their video “Happy” Has Both Nelson Mandela and 4664 (the occluded Prisoner number) Cerns logo has the 666 theme as well as being Mandela effected as well and the effect added a mandorla. Cern built the WWW or 666 vav vav vav 777/ which is also the Monster energy drink logo. LOGOS changing LOGOS is the WORD and the thing that was with God during creation. The levels of fractal metaphor are stunning to me. Staggeringly beautiful not just in their existence but the fact that conscious minds can behold it. Isnt it funny that Jaws (villian) and Jaws(shark) are both to do with The mouth and teeth and the ME involves braces... And that the dolly/jaws scene had them mirror each others smiles, like in snow whites mirror mirror. and that the actress who plays dolly is Blanche Ravelec. Blanche means White/pure. As does Clarice In the Silence of the lions/lamb.... loins fruit of the womb. froot looms loony looms..... the double 00 thing oo like eyes that see. Sally fields name is effected, her famous Oscar speech is effected, she costars in forest gump which has curious George as a key element and sally field being the one Tom hanks is quoting, he would then be involved in another ME later on. And sally fields brother works at cern... Tom hank is also Woody and Says “Theirs a Snake in my Boots” which contextually makes no sense and reminds us of the Fields not having a plural.. Another way to look at that is “Boots” could be interpreted as a word.. and the Snake is S s is a snake a snake hissessssss los of ssess lol The s on the end can also denote possession (again more S'es) possession is ownership and ownership is shackling and oppressive. You may also be reminded of Field of Dreams “If you build it THEY/HE will come (who is he?) HE is right in the middle of THEY TY thank you... and back to the start with the fact sally fields acceptance speech was her saying thank you to the academy. This may appear to be nonsense or gibberish but if you had the time and knew the things I was referencing then you would be able to see the connections. Of Course this is just nothing as it is. But then the universe nods to us this genuine morsel. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/4687152/Tom-Hanks-to-switch-on-repaired-Large-Hadron-Collider.html Why is Tom Hanks turning the Large Hardron Collider at CERN back on? What is the movie that he is promoting? https://www.nature.com/articles/news.2009.104 Angels and Demons by Dan Brown the continuation of Robert Langdons Symbologist tour all around the world to uncover exotic secrets and truths. The next in the series is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(2016_film)) Langdon and Brooks figure out that Zobrist, who was obsessed with Dante, has created a viral superweapon he has dubbed "Inferno", with the potential of annihilating half the world's population. In the meantime, they have been traced by both Vayentha and agents from the World Health Organization (WHO), https://www.reddit.com/C_S_T/comments/ckwrv5/tom_hanks_the_mandela_effect_and_the_essence_of/ The craziest part about the LHC CERN connection is that I didn't see it back when I was deeply diving into Tom hanks and the Mandela effect. That fact came later along with this particular nugget I have seen no one reference. https://www.reddit.com/MandelaEffect/comments/7kxwby/the_mandel_effect_is_the_precursor_to_quantum/ The MANDEL effect is the precursor to quantum computing. My wife comes in and mentions that she got an ad for the movie Splash with Tom hanks, while I am Knee deep in looking into “Red Shoes” I started looking into this movie because of the notable Calling Card that Hanx has developed on twitter. He has posted pictures of lone gloves, shoes and other discarded or lost objects. Its kind of his “Thing” I first had this brought to my attention due too my research into the Death of Issac Kappy. Which is another completely bonkers rabbithole that covers Epstein and leads to the death of researcher Tracey Twymin. Kappy had called out some folks in his various videos before his death. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyG1nyWhR28&t=225s ANNNNDD HOLY FUCK what is this!? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGv79VO6dp8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0PMRmZinHI Whelp this is new too me. Damn strange , The way hes propped up and the fact the time stamp in the video is 2 mins before he is noted as jumping off the bridge as there was supposedly a group of 6 or 7 teenagers on the bridge attempting to stop him. Did anyone notice the song playing in the background.”When Im gone” by 3 doors down.... https://genius.com/3-doors-down-when-im-gone-lyrics Why is this anything pertaining to Tom Hanks? https://twitter.com/tomhanks/status/1114014676734451712 Tom hanks posted a picture of a discarded glove with the caption “Historic Route 66. Roadkill? I hope not! Hanx. “ This was on 4-4-2018 and 40 days(5 weeks 5 days) before Kappys death on Route 66. 2 posts later on the day that Kappy died Hanks posts https://twitter.com/tomhanks/status/1128061487929389056 Look up the significance of handkerchiefs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handkerchief_code That wasn't what I expected but it fits in. https://twitter.com/tomhanks It looks like Hanx twitter is where a lot the juicy conspiratorial coincidences lie. Make not of all of the posts made from 3-13-20 and beyond and you will see that there is a pattern to the posting style not present before. Before 3-11-20 he posted inside the ap using the twitter posting ap, and writing the post and attatching a picture. After 3-11-20 all of his posts where he writes a blurb are pictures of text with pictures embedded https://twitter.com/tomhanks/status/1237909897020207104/photo/1 With this seeming like the post he had been destined to post this whole time. The lone glove in bio-hazard waste bin. And then drops this gem of a post. https://twitter.com/tomhanks/status/1240024515498786816/photo/1 Haha oh my, so ironic that I brought my CORONA typewriter all the way to Australia only to get the CORONAvirus. “My wife has won 6 straight hands of gin rummy and leads by 201 points.” This first thing that jumped out is 201. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoLw-Q8X174 Taking place in NYC on Oct 18-19 by the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation. (who are also involved with Vaccines and ID2020, and global management systems.) https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3074991/coronavirus-chinas-first-confirmed-covid-19-case-traced-back Nov-17-19 was the first traced case of the Corona-virus Covid-19 This simulation was based on the Coronavirus from Pigs in 2019 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_(zodiac)) Now we are in the year of the RAT. Which is quite heavily intoned with the black plague https://chinesenewyear.net/ The phrase "black death" (mors nigra) was used in 1350 by Simon de Covino or Couvin, a Belgian astronomer, who wrote the poem "On the Judgment of the Sun at a Feast of Saturn" (De judicio Solis in convivio Saturni), which attributes the plague to a conjunction) of Jupiter and Saturn. Hmm that is indeed interesting as I am aware that there is a Great Conjunction this very year, the year of the Rat. And the Year of the Coronavirus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_conjunction This conjunction is taking place on the solstice which is quite significant. May-31-2000 was our last great conjunction and can you see how the world is so much different from that point in time. And we can suspect that this point in 2020 is yet another turning point into a “New Normal” Note that Dante Alighieri was very involved with astrology and had a penchant for the Great conjunctions in particular. And He was the inspiration of the movie INFERNO with Tom hanks trying to prevent a global outbreak intended to reduce the population to save the planet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dante_Alighieri https://books.google.com/books?id=rR-8AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA131&lpg=PA131&dq=dante+great+conjunction&source=bl&ots=HxnVXyKCti&sig=ACfU3U3w3tf4y5l-RjEYU7Xwz5UtrtwCXQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjFqL76xsDoAhVCSN8KHQ5VBeQQ6AEwBXoECAsQAQ#v=onepage&q=dante%20great%20conjunction&f=false …......................................................................................................................... Here is a point of note. I am browsing this wiki for the first time and I am seeing this nugget. Pope Boniface quickly dismissed the other delegates and asked Dante alone to remain in Rome. At the same time (November 1, 1301), Charles of Valois entered Florence with the Black Guelphs, who in the next six days destroyed much of the city and killed many of their enemies. A new Black Guelph government was installed, and Cante dei Gabrielli da Gubbi was appointed podestà of the city. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podest%C3%A0 Podesta really..... I had no idea this name meant anything, really never looked into it, even though I have an obsession with names and the meanings of said names, I had not sought this. Ok I seem to be diving into other trails in this Warren of rabbit holes. Back too Event 201 and Tom hanks game with Rita Wilson where 6 games in is ahead 201 points. https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/6201 What is this? 6201.................... 6 games 201 points...... bill signed into law the day you and Rita Wilson tested positive for corona virus in Australia with your CORONA typewriter? So we have a grand convergence of coincidence. 1 with event 201 coming before HR 6201 is passed and 2 with the rummy game hanks played with his wife referencing said bill. https://globalnews.ca/news/6719291/madonna-coronavirus-bathtub-rant/ https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/9330887/madonna-cancels-madame-x-paris-shows-coronavirus-restrictions MADAME X is Madonnas alter ego that she created these past couple years. And she had an interesting back to her album cover that came out last year. https://www.mad-eyes.net/music/madame-x/img/album_madame-x_deluxe_back.jpg The album releasing in June of 2019 has a picture of Madame wearing gloves and typing on a Corona Typewriter, the same typewriter that hanks brought with him too Australia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madame_X_(album)) Too add more synchromystic stuff too the mix we have this https://www.reddit.com/typewriters/comments/6pzyp8/where_can_i_get_similar_pape I searched for Tom hanks and found this post from Typewriters and its simply an autographed Typewriter but altogether a nod that Im on the right path. OH fuckin Kay I guess this means something You may mention above I said my wife came In in and mentioned the Tom hanks Movie splash. https://d2e111jq13me73.cloudfront.net/sites/default/files/styles/product_image_aspect_switcher_170w/public/product-images/csm-movie/splash.jpg?itok=nOlS8nFn https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Splash_ver2.jpg Directed by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babaloo_Mandel Babaloo Mandel? Baloo and Mandel, for real? Mandel like the Mandel effect and the Mandela effect. And Baloo like the character from the jungle book who is not wearing coconuts as a bra anymore? Look up “Baloo Mandela effect” and you'll see what I mean. This stood out too me because of course Tom hanks connection too the Mandela effect through notably the Most Mandela effects attributed to his name and works. But I didn't think it was 'Enough” to share here. So after seeing Madonna and Tom hanks connected via the Corona Typewriter I googled . “Tom Hanks and Madonna” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_League_of_Their_Own OK so the other film by Babaloo Mandel that stood out as another Tom hanks flick was this movie . Im getting long winded and as always there is more left out then I have presented it too you as their really is no way of condensing this so that you acquire the full picture. I end with a question?!!! What was Madonnas name before she changed it too MADONNA for the purposes of being a star? https://www.reddit.com/MandelaEffect/comments/538lcf/residue_of_madonnas_real_name_maria_louise_ciccone/ Well that's not actually the end because we need to wrap this baby up in swaddling clothes. https://www.reddit.com/Retconned/comments/aogi7m/the_heart_of_forrest_gump_or_the_trees_do_you_see/ Tom hanks wife is Rita Wilson...................... Wilson you say?! Hmmm well the vollyball in CAST AWAY must have been named after her... right???? In the film, Wilson the volleyball) serves as Chuck Noland's personified friend and only companion during the four years that Noland spends alone on a deserted island. Named after the volleyball's manufacturer, Wilson Sporting Goods, the character was created by screenwriter William Broyles, Jr While researching for the film, he consulted with professional survival experts, and then chose to deliberately strand himself for one week on an isolated beach in the Gulf of California, to force himself to search for water and food, and obtain his own shelter. During this time, a volleyball washed up on shore. This was the inspiration for the film's inanimate companion. From a screenwriting point of view, Wilson also serves to realistically allow dialogue in a one-person-only situation Here is a prime example of synchronicity that when brought up to someone not exposed to these ideas they would come back at you with “Well its prolly because his wife was named Wilson” and then the door is shut for them they don't have to take on any new ideas or modify there existing foundation of reality. If you tell anyone a small peculiar fact then they inevitably try and “Solve” what you just told them. They have to organize the new information in a way that doesn't cause uncomfortability or stress. The human brain seems to have an Autonomic response to new information that doesn't jive with the world view that person has built up over the years. Mention any Mandela effect and someone will try and come up with a reason to ignore what you are presenting to them. The effects themselves are in such mundane places that it doesn't seem to have much weight to the average Joe. It seems like many people fall into the logical fallacy of the “Wisdom of the Crowd” Even if they have no concept of what this is they may still fall into its tenants. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisdom_of_the_crowd Take any of the biggest conspiracies out there. The moon landing, 9-11, flat earth. The bigger and more wide spanning the conspiracy then the more “Well, if this is real then people would have said something about it” “You couldn't keep a secret that big” “Somebody in my life would have told me if X was True/False.” Have you seen the meme from xfiles with the poster Mulder has saying “I want to believe” with a flying saucer on it. Thats what this is like. But the train goes both ways. “I want” and “I dont want. “ https://www.amazon.com/X-Files-Poster-Believe-Official-24x36/dp/B003V1IU3O/ref=asc_df_B003V1IU3O/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309733593834&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8924062892720319746&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9010924&hvtargid=pla-571329128101&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=61981387152&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=309733593834&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8924062892720319746&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9010924&hvtargid=pla-571329128101 Both of these Mantras play out in our heads unbeknownst to our recognition. A duel play on what we wish reality to be and what we wish it not to be. As want and unwant are dualistic sides of the same coin. For someone that believes 9-11 was an inside job. “I want to believe” that I among all these other people on this planet found out that this large sector of society has been duped and I am one of the few people smart enough to have figured it out. For someone who thinks 9-11 conspiracy theorists are insane. “ I dont want to believe I have been duped by the establishment and that everything I have been taught and all the people that I love have been duped into believing an untruth.” I think this is mainly something that stems from our human need for others to identify with and a tribe to call home. And to have our beliefs echoed by another group. To be acknowledged as a contributor to the paradigm and to feel validated by others that feel the same way. Its like we are innately narcissistic creatures who love our own images. We find those most similar to us and we just stare at each other reflecting the same ideas and producing a greater dived between US and THEM.What it comes down to is life's great mystery. Which takes shape in questions we ask ourselves: ” Why do I exist?” “Why is reality a thing instead of a non-thing?” “What is my purpose?” Instead of “what is my purpose?” it becomes “Is there even a purpose?” Mainstream elements give us Relativity, The Big Bang, and Evolution. If a human delves into and absorbs these tenants of culture, then one may come to the conclusion that reality is the result of a freak accident of random number of infinite forces coming together and creating everything you know and love and think and do. That it is all a fluke and you are just lucky..... but luck doesn't exist because this is a random universe and nothing lies deeper than surface exploration. To identify Self you must also have the Other. The contrast creates the existence of a thing.Imagine 2 worlds, one of infinite shadow and one of infinite light. The one of infinite shadow would be a black slate and the world of light a white slate. Without contrast everything is nothing. Sense without the lack of sense is Nonsense. A world of pure sound or silence is a world where sound isn't a thing that exists. If you ask the question. “What is a thing” the answer would be the inverse of its opposite. What is an exhale. It is the inverse of an inhale. But what is that? It is a see saw..... seeing and after seeing sawing. SAW because it WAS. Its like pIng pOng In and Out IO overlapped is the symbol for power. On/Off. Imagine a hero without a villain. The story of Batman is a prime example of the balancing force of the universe. Without the Joker he would have never experienced the trauma to become the batman, its very possible that if the joker had not killed his parents that he would not have had fear in the cave with the bats. Joker was the primeval creation force alchemizing the batman into existence. And then you ask would the Joker have done what he did if he didn't have a nemesis to combat against... a force to emphasize his existence This reality/ game seems like a puzzle of disCERNment. That the presence of so many untruths shows us the massive amounts of truths that can be yielded. The shadows can show us where the light lies. https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1242246372000059393 I see this when I go to CNN today to see that Tom and Rite are at home safe and sound. Why does she make a video holding a book that she is not reading and making sure to show the title in the scene. Enders Game, Or is it the End Game of the end times ala Thanos Snap reducing the worlds population. I read this book in high-school. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%203-m&geo=US&q=enders%20game Im sure more people are saying whats dat book she readin in dere. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender%27s_Game The book is a story of a dystopian future where children are raised on video games and are chosen based on their aptitude to be brought into the military and as a part of their training they do a series of “Wargames” via simulations systems and Haptic feedback suits for realism. SPOILER ALERT! The simulations they were performing were actual drone battle missions where they were killing actual sentient creatures. The psychology of getting kids to perform against actual foes with the knowledge that it was all a game made them more proficient in their duty to kill. Ok lets reel it back for a TLDR. Tom hanks is involved or a focal point in the Mandela effect phenomenon present in Forrest Gump Life is/.was like a box of chocolates, Apollo 13 Houston we have/we've had a problem, Woody from toy story says “There's a snake in my boot/s ,Momma from Forrest Gump is played by sally field/s whose name is considered a Mandela effect and has a famous Oscar speech that is commonly attributed to the Mandela effect and Sally Fields brother in real life is a scientist at CERN. CERN makes a video set too Pharrells Happy that is filmed at Cern and a scientist holds up signs saying Bond# (Barry Nelson) and Mandela underneath, also showing the number 4664 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/46664 Tom hanks then turns CERN back on after a failure that had occurred. He did this in honor of a movie Angels and Demons whos sequel INFERNO has Hanks catch a virus set to be a worldwide pandemic for the purposes of population control for the greater good. In Nov of 2019 one month before the first documented case of Novel Coronavirus Event 201 is hosted in NYC by the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation. And on 3-11-2020 the same day Hanks and Rita announce they are infected with Corona virus, after bringing a Corona typewriter all the way to Australia. Then Hanks announces his wife's score of 6 games 201 points. When 6201 if you google it will get you one thing. https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/6201 Hanks is called out in a video also calling out Epstein and others involved in the underground trafficking of children, This person is then killed/died/epstiened on route 66 which Tom hanks Tweets about. There is some funky stuff going on in the world and to be blunt there are 3 options. And then variations between those 3 options. The extremes are
This is all orchestrated and everything presented through the public is controlled/filtered and dispensed with one purpose. All news media and things that people talk about are intricately put together to share some underlying puzzle.
Ways this could be feasible: this is a simulation and everything is preordained and put in place with no free will to the occupants in the simulation. Ways it couldn't be feasible. Barring a simulation it just would not cut it to have any sort of person or group in charge of such a thing, its too well orchestrated for human hands. I suppose a god of the realm in control of such things could perform such a feat..... but why?
This is all the universe playing a coincidence game, a red herring game of sorts to keep some busy and others asleep. Like if Tom hanks really got the itch to bring his Corona typewriter and he and his wife did actually play games of Gin Rummy that resulted in the 6 games 201 points with Event 201 being finished and HR 6201 just passing the same day they are infected with coronavirus.
This is just one facet of the coincidental underlying tapestry that paints itself underneath human activity. Within this post I detail some stellar findings/coincidences that bear repeating here. https://www.reddit.com/conspiracy/comments/8pgmln/william_blakespeare666_cyphers_the_man_in_black/ https://imgur.com/F3zCiRw And here Is one of the most incredible coincidence blocks ive ever seen. What are the odds that is is 666.6 nautical miles between the Kaaba and The Temple Mount of Jerusalem? What are the odds that 666. Nautical miles =1234.56432 Kilometers ? You have the sequential united with the repetitive number sequences married by a relationship between the size of the earth and the speed of light. https://imgur.com/F3zCiRw What are the odds of Stanley Kubrick writing a movie that feature 2001 as a key plot point and in this film show a man “Dave Bowman” play chess against HAL which is 1 letter transliterated from IBM and that 666 days before Stanley Kubrick's death IBM's Deep Blue beats Gary Kasparov at chess and that 666 days after Stanley Kubrick's death is the Dawn of the 21st Century 2001. To tie all that up Kubrick References 666 through the occulted wink of the number that is missing. as Officer # 665 and 667 are apprehending the main droog of the story. https://imgur.com/GSx4hZX What are the odds that Wilson the volleyball is not named after Rita Wilson, his wife who kept her last name. But is instead named because the Writer stranded himself on an island and a Wilson Volleyball washed up onshore. This is the type of coincidence that bars any human forethought or knowledge to arranging. One of those universal winks in the form of syncs. Look for my post history and you will find hundreds of WTF how is this a coincidence facts that could be both coincidence/divine providence/ or the will of man. Oh yeah and the 3rd Extreme way of looking at this data I have presented here and in the past is to just shut the door and say. “Nothing” none of this means anything at all and you are just thinking too much or looking too deep. The most likely is a synergy of these 3 points. There maybe a controlling organization or AI program controlling the media and news, film and music. But there is most likely a clever universal side of things projecting the ironic in these peculiar times. And im sure some of this is just digging to deep as everything is intrinsically connected . What cant be stated is the data presented is incorrect(unless it is,im not perfect) it is our interpretation of the data that differs, im not making any conclusions, im only discussing options and possibilities.
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