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[Purdum] 17 of the first 18 bets on the NBA Finals were on the Miami Heat at the SuperBook at Westgate Las Vegas. The Los Angeles Lakers' odds have gone from -450 to -360 at the SuperBook

Context | Los Angeles Lakers heavy favorites to win NBA Finals, but Miami Heat drawing early action:
Sportsbooks have installed the Los Angeles Lakers as considerable favorites to beat the Miami Heat in the NBA Finals. The early betting action, though, has been on the underdogs, and the odds are on the move.
The Lakers are -400 favorites at William Hill U.S. sportsbooks, with the Heat listed as +320 underdogs. Early support for Miami has caused the odds to move at some sportsbooks.
As of Monday morning, 17 of the first 18 bets on the NBA Finals were on the Heat at the SuperBook at Westgate Las Vegas. The Lakers' odds have gone from -450 to -360 at the SuperBook since the price was posted late Monday night after the matchup was set.
The SuperBook is facing a low six-figure liability on the Lakers winning the title, a figure that began mounting in June 2019, when Anthony Davis was acquired and speculation of also adding Kawhi Leonard was circulating. The SuperBook took several bets on the Lakers in the $10,000-$20,000 range last summer, and the support never stopped.
While there has been plenty of interest in the Lakers throughout the season, the Heat were not a popular pick. Ten teams attracted more bets to win the title than Miami at the SuperBook, including the Golden State Warriors, who ended up among the teams that did not participate in the NBA's restart in Orlando.
The Lakers are consensus 5-point favorites over the Heat in Game 1 of the Finals on Wednesday.
Source per ESPN
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How likely is every NFL stadium to host WrestleMania? An investigation

With the announcements of WrestleManias 37, 38, and 39, some users were critical of WWE selecting the same venues every year. Every WrestleMania since 23, with the exception of three in Orlando (two at the Citrus Bowl/Camping World Stadium and one at the Performance Center due to COVID-19), has been held at an NFL stadium. As something of an NFL stadium expert, I decided to examine each NFL stadium's likelihood of hosting a future WrestleMania. Please note that some stadiums are located just outside of the city limits listed, but I listed the major city most associated with it (so for instance, while AT&T Stadium is technically in Arlington, it hosts the Dallas Cowboys, so I listed Arlington.) I'm also giving WWE a significant benefit of the doubt and assuming they'd be interested in hosting a Mania outside of their usual go-tos.
Allegiant Stadium, Las Vegas, NV
Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO
AT&T Stadium, Dallas, TX
Bank of America Stadium, Charlotte, NC
Bills Stadium, Buffalo, NY
Empower Field at Mile High, Denver, CO
FedExField, Washington, DC (stadium located in Landover, MD)
FirstEnergy Stadium, Cleveland, OH
Ford Field, Detroit, MI
Gillette Stadium, Foxborough, MA
Hard Rock Stadium, Miami, FL
Heinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA
Lambeau Field, Green Bay, WI
Levi's Stadium, Santa Clara, CA
Lincoln Financial Field, Philadelphia, PA
Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis, IN
Lumen Field, Seattle, WA
M&T Bank Stadium, Baltimore, MD
Mercedes-Benz Stadium, Atlanta, GA
Mercedes-Benz Superdome, New Orleans, LA
MetLife Stadium, New York, NY (located in East Rutherford, NJ)
Nissan Stadium, Nashville, TN
NRG Stadium, Houston, TX
Paul Brown Stadium, Cincinnati, OH
Raymond James Stadium, Tampa, FL
SoFi Stadium, Los Angeles, CA
Soldier Field, Chicago, IL
State Farm Stadium, Phoenix, AZ
TIAA Bank Field, Jacksonville, FL
US Bank Stadium, Minneapolis, MN
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Spoiler Alert: the results of the 2020-21 NBA Season

Some fans (like myself) loathe reading "spoilers" for their favorite TV shows or movies. Others actively seek them out.
One of the best parts of being a sports fan is that it's impossible to look ahead and know the outcome of the season. However, I happened to stumble upon a Sports Almanac and will divulge the results for you now. Of course, if you're prefer not to know what happens this year, skip this post and be surprised instead.
EASTERN CONFERENCE
(1) Milwaukee Bucks : 50-22
With the news of Giannis Antetokounmpo's extensions serving as an early Christmas present, the Bucks roll into the year with good vibes and another dominant regular season run. Their new supporting takes some time to gel which leads to some more close games, but in turn that causes Giannis Antetokounmpo to play more minutes and put up better raw stats than ever (averaging 30 PPG for the first time in his career). Despite that, he's not a runaway MVP winner. Some voter fatigue and playoff backlash causes a split vote, with 5 different players receiving first-place voters. When the smoke clears and the dust settles, Giannis wins a close vote to snag his third consecutive MVP trophy.
(2) Brooklyn Nets : 47-25
The Brooklyn Nets click together early, fueled by a healthy-looking Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving. They race out to a 30-11 start to the regular season before taking their foot off the gas to help sustain their health. While that decision may help them in the long run, it costs Kevin Durant his early-season MVP buzz (similar to Kawhi Leonard's season in Toronto.) Still, the Nets enter the postseason with good vibes all around, which earns coach Steve Nash several laudatory media reports and nearly enables him to win Coach of the Year (he finishes second.)
(3) Philadelphia 76ers : 46-26
Speaking of great press, new exec Daryl Morey receives plenty of glowing reviews himself after his tweaks to the roster work wonders. Thanks to the spacing of Seth Curry, Shake Milton, and surprise rookie Isaiah Joe, slashepasser Ben Simmons takes a leap up in efficiency, scoring a career-high 23 points a game and earning 2nd team All-NBA honors. Inside the locker room, it feels like there's a notable shift towards the roster being more of his team than Joel Embiid's. Of course, the club knows they'll need both of them to dominant to make a Finals push.
(4) Toronto Raptors : 45-27
Reigning Coach of the Year Nick Nurse doesn't get half as much recognition as he should for another strong year at the helm, helping the club to easily beat their Vegas oveunder of 41.5 wins. Still, there are cracks under the surface. Now at age 34/35, Kyle Lowry looks like he's lost a step and struggles to match his 36 minutes per game from the prior year. Although nothing is official yet, it looks like the team may have to say goodbye to Lowry at the end of the season as he enters free agency.
(5) Miami Heat : 44-28
The Miami heat don't ride their momentum from the Finals trip into a top seed, partly due to some leaky defense on the perimeter. Frustrated, Pat Riley decides to make a power move and trade for Victor Oladipo. The fit doesn't click right away as the team retains a similar record, but the Heat still feel confident that they can turn up the volume when the playoffs roll around.
(6) Boston Celtics : 43-29
After losing Gordon Hayward, the Boston Celtics' ascent up the Eastern Conference stagnates. For the first time, the media appears to turn on this likable coach and club, wondering if the team needs to make a dramatic trade to shake up the roster. Ultimately, they decide to hold on to Jaylen Brown and the core and take their chances in the playoffs with the current lineup.
(7) Indiana Pacers : 38-34
The Indiana Pacers attempt to shift their playing style under new coach Nate Bjorkgren, but some up and down play leads them to make a move and (as mentioned) trade Victor Oladipo prior to his free agency. Afterwards, they play more minutes with PG Aaron Holiday and PG/SG Malcolm Brogdon in the same lineup, a look that leads to a faster paced offense more befitting of Bjorkgren's ultimate goal for the team. That said, the decision about the future of the Myles TurneDomatas Sabonis pairing looms in the background.
(8) Atlanta Hawks : 35-37
All the moves the Atlanta Hawks made during the offseason pay off -- more or less -- as Danilo Gallinari and Bogdan Bogdanovic give Trae Young some much needed help. A year after finishing 26th in total offense, the team leaps up into the top half of the league. Still, struggles on defense keep the team below .500 on the year and lead to a dogfight all year long for that 8th seed.
(9) Washington Wizards : 34-38
New PG Russell Westbrook earns rave reviews from his teammates and from the press early on, as the club jumps out to a 12-8 record and a presumptive playoff spot thanks to a renewed effort and attitude. Ultimately, their poor defense (ranked 30th last season) and their young frontcourt lead to a few too many losses along the way and prevent them from clinching a playoff spot outright. Coach Scott Brooks is let go after the season in favor of Denver assistant Wes Unseld Jr.
(10) Charlotte Hornets : 30-42
The Charlotte Hornets' maligned signing of Gordon Hayward doesn't look too bad (in year 1) as Hayward returns to near All-Star levels with averages of 18-6-5. Still, the youth on the roster cripples any chance of a true playoff finish. At the same time, the future looks brighter than before. LaMelo Ball wins a polarizing Rookie of the Year campaign with good raw stats (15-5-7) on bad efficiency, while R2 pick Vernon Carey flirts with All-Rookie team for a solid 11-7 first year as a scoring big off the bench.
(11) Chicago Bulls : 28-44
One year after winning Coach of the Year for mixing the perfect cocktail in Oklahoma City, Billy Donovan doesn't find the same type of immediate success with the young pieces here in Chicago. Rookie Patrick Williams looks promising, but second year guard Coby White shows more inconsistency than expected in his sophomore campaign.
(12) Orlando Magic : 28-44
Despite the losses of Jonathan Isaac (injury) and D.J. Augustin (free agency), coach Steve Clifford keeps his team in the playoff mix for the first few months of the season. But once the team stumbles during a 1-5 stretch, the front office decides to wave the white flag and trade Aaron Gordon. For them, the purposes are twofold: to give more opportunity to rookie PF Chuma Okeke, and to eye a higher draft pick in a strong class. With that rebuild in mind, the team decides to empower rookie PG Cole Anthony over the last few month, indicating that free agent Markelle Fultz may not be in their future plans after all.
(13) Detroit Pistons : 25-47
Returning from injury, Blake Griffin flashes the All-NBA caliber talent that he displayed two years ago when he led the team to a 41-41 record. However, Griffin continues to miss time here and there, effectively ending the team's chances of being a true playoff contender. The limited spacing also reveals itself, as the team struggles mightily to score in the games Griffin misses (finishing 8-19 without him.)
(14) New York Knicks : 24-48
Hard-charging coach Tom Thibodeau pushes the Knicks too much for them to garner the top spot in the NBA Draft, but they still manage to finish in the bottom 5. For all the early Rookie of the Year buzz for Obi Toppin, he fails to win the award due to Thibodeau overplaying Julius Randle and Toppin's own bad stats on defense.
(15) Cleveland Cavaliers : 21-51
The undersized perimeter leads to an awful defense that leaves the Cavaliers among the worst in the league yet again. The team attempts to trade Kevin Love to a contender, but an injury complicates that timeline and leads to an offseason exit for the big man instead.
WESTERN CONFERENCE
(1) Los Angeles Clippers : 48-24
After their embarrassing flameout against Denver, the L.A. Clippers come back with a chip on their shoulder and an eagerness to change the narrative about them. Their regular season play remains similar (top 5 in offense and defense), but comes with more effort and chemistry as a unit. By the time the season ends, they've gotten right back to the level of the Lakers in terms of title odds (+270).
(2) Los Angeles Lakers : 47-25
Unlike their cross-town rival (or rather, same-stadium rival), the L.A. Lakers don't feel the need to drive hard in the regular season after winning the title. LeBron James drastically reduces his workload in the regular season, going from 34.6 minutes a night down to 33.5. In the process, the Lakers lose their grip on the # 1 seed and LeBron James' loses his argument for another MVP. But as the playoffs approach, they don't seem to mind at all; they're still the betting favorite to win the title in Vegas.
(3) Utah Jazz : 44-28
After a full year in the system, PG Mike Conley's struggles are behind him and he helps the team threaten for the # 1 seed. Returning big man Derrick Favors helps the depth and helps the defense return to the top 8 (after falling to 13th last year), and wing Royce O'Neale finally gets some credit for that as well, finishing on the All-Defense team.
(4) Denver Nuggets : 43-29
While the Utah Jazz thrive because of their defense, Denver disappoints because of a declining one. Michael Porter Jr. looks like a future All-Star with averages of 16.7 points per game, but his struggles on the other end (in contrast to Jerami Grant) lead the Nuggets to finish in the bottom half of the league on D and prevent them from the presumptive step up that many expect.
(5) Dallas Mavericks : 41-31
Luka Doncic and company look as good as ever, but their returns demand on expectations. Luka Doncic puts up MVP-caliber stats, but doesn't actually win it (losing to Giannis.) The historically good offense takes a dip as the team realizes how much they miss Seth Curry. In his place, Josh Richardson underwhelms for his second straight team.
(6) New Orleans Pelicans : 38-34
After getting a lot of flak and a lot of flab, Zion Williams looks rejuvenated early on and the hype about him returns quickly. New coach Stan Van Gundy settles on rotations faster than Alvin Gentry did, and trusts his former player J.J. Redick more than Gentry did as well. Redick and Steven Adams' veteran leadership helps the youngsters play hard and fast every night, leading to a playoff spot despite inconsistent shooting as a team. Van Gundy wins Coach of the Year for the unexpected playoff trip and high seed.
(7) Portland Trail Blazers : 37-35
Despite a lot of good will and public support (including a projected # 2 seed from ESPN's Bobby Marks), Portland looks like the same ol' Blazers again with strong offense and poor defense. The feel-good Carmelo Anthony storyline ends poorly. Coach Terry Stotts shelves Anthony towards the second half of the season (due to poor defensive numbers), leading Anthony to bristle and ultimately work out a buy-out with the team.
(8) Phoenix Suns : 37-35
The Phoenix Suns officially turn the corner and become a winning team. Still, there's a stark contrast between their play with Chris Paul and without Chris Paul. And unfortunately for them, Paul's not as healthy as he had been the year before for OKC. He ends up missing 24 games, during which the Suns go 10-14.
(9) Houston Rockets : 36-36
The Houston Rockets play hardball and push the Philadelphia 76ers for a James Harden-Ben Simmons trade, but Daryl Morey and the Rockets stonewall them (feeling no time crunch, given that their stars are both young and on long-term deals.) Fortunately for the Rockets, James Harden sucks it up, starts the year in a Rocket uniform, and immediately looks like an MVP contender again with his incredible workload and efficiency. Alas, his new backcourt mate John Wall doesn't look quite at the same level in his first year back. Wall's struggles hurt the team's ceiling, and ultimately cast a dark cloud over their future (with Wall owed over $40M in each of the next 3 years.) The Harden trade may have been avoided for now, but still looks likely in the offseason.
(10) Golden State Warriors : 34-38
Returning star Steph Curry flashes the talent that made him a two-time MVP for stretches, but minor injuries keep derailing the momentum he has for an MVP push and for a playoff push for the team. Draymond Green doesn't snap back to prime form as many Warriors fans had hoped, leaving some doubt about his future with the club. Fortunately, rookie C James Wiseman steadily improves and looks like a future stud. Unfortunately, it won't be good enough to help the team for this season.
(11) Sacramento Kings: 32-40
The bad buzz about the Sacramento Kings turns around as a healthy De'Aaron Fox and Marvin Bagley III jumpstart an improvement from the year before. In fact, Bagley flirts with 20-10 averages, finishing just shy with 18.8 points per game. As a combo guard off the bench, Tyrese Haliburton is one of the most effective rookies in the class. Savvy analysts like Kevin Pelton push for him to win Rookie of the Year, but his limited minutes and counting stats leave him snubbed for the trophy.
(12) San Antonio Spurs : 31-41
The San Antonio Spurs get out to a strong 14-12 start thanks to an improved defense (and a lack of Bryn Forbes), leading many to campaign for Gregg Popovich as a potential Coach of the Year. Eventually the team lags behind in the crowded Western Conference and turns the reins over to the youngsters. DeMar DeRozan gets reduced time down the stretch as the team gets an extended look at Keldon Johnson and Devin Vassell as the potential wings of the future.
(13) Minnesota Timberwolves : 29-43
Karl-Anthony Towns continues his blistering pace from three, but doubt lingers about the roster construction beyond that as the next best players (D'Angelo Russell, Anthony Edwards, and Malik Beasley) all look like scoring guards. Among them, Beasley appears to be the odd man out, leading to a trade to Orlando in a package that yields back Aaron Gordon. Gordon helps the team's defense, but not in time to make a playoff push for this particular year.
(14) Memphis Grizzlies : 27-45
After a disappointing start to the season, the Grizzlies see no rush to bring back Jaren Jackson Jr. for heavy minutes. Instead, they try to find the right supporting players for the long haul. To that end, PF Brandon Clarke confirms his strong rookie season was no fluke, setting himself up for starters' minutes next season (with the idea being that they'll shift Jaren Jackson to the center position full time as well.)
(15) Oklahoma City Thunder : 18-54
Sam Presti and new coach Mark Daigneault work in tandem to help secure a top lottery pick for the club. Thanks to newly expanded rosters, the Thunder team looks even more anonymous than the Hinkie Sixers by the end, playing the equivalent of G-Leaguers for the last few weeks of the season. While OKC lands the top slot going into the lottery, they end up with the # 3 pick and miss out on the chance to draft local product Cade Cunningham. Still, it may be a blessing in disguise, as other top prospects SG Jalen Green and C Evan Mobley project to be good complements to foundational piece Shai Gilgeous-Alexander.
EASTERN CONFERENCE PLAYOFFS
PLAY-IN GAMES
The Charlotte Hornets earn some buzz (get it??) and some predictions that they'll knock off the Indiana Pacers, but the Pacers handle their business and win 1-0. Meanwhile, the 8th-9th series between Atlanta and Washington is a dogfight. Russell Westbrook helps the Wizards win Game 1 with a 23-9-11 line, but he goes an ugly 7-23 in the second game as the Hawks win out.
ROUND ONE
(1) Milwaukee vs. (8) Atlanta
Atlanta's momentum is short-lived, as Giannis Antetounkoumpo and company crush them like bugs, 4-1.
(2) Brooklyn vs. (7) Indiana
Indiana fights harder than expected and manages to tie the series 2-2, but Kyrie Irving has a massive game 5 (43 points) and helps lead to a 4-2 win.
(3) Philadelphia vs. (6) Boston
Forget tough series -- this is an all-out war. Doc Rivers battles against his old team, and has an ace up his sleeve in the mammoth Joel Embiid whose size causes fits for the Celtics. With better shooting around him this time, it's enough to knock off the Celts, 4-3.
(4) Toronto vs. (5) Miami
Another great R1 series goes to the wire in Game 7. The Raptors' length bothers Jimmy Butler inside, but Miami's shooters provide enough of a pop to pull it out, 4-3.
ROUND TWO
(1) Milwaukee vs. (5) Miami
Milwaukee needs to exercise their demons from last year, facing the time that knocked them off. This time around, Giannis is fully healthy and paired with a big-time playoff competitor in Jrue Holiday, who helps provide the difference as the Bucks win 4-2. At this point, many analysts feel like this will be "Giannis' year."
(2) Brooklyn vs. (3) Philadelphia
In another high-profile clash, coaches Steve Nash and Doc Rivers receive a lot of spotlight for their star-studded teams. Unfortunately, Rivers has no answer in the bank for Kevin Durant, who averages 34.8 points en route to a 4-2 victory.
ROUND THREE
(1) Milwaukee vs. (2) Brooklyn
All year long, it looks like Milwaukee may have shaken off their playoff troubles and finally achieved their destiny. However, after a 2-1 lead, the tide starts to turn. Jarrett Allen and Kevin Durant's length helps limit Giannis to a mediocre series, allowing the Nets to rattle off 3 straight wins and make the Finals.
WESTERN CONFERENCE PLAYOFFS
PLAY-IN GAMES
A play-in series between former teammates James Harden and Chris Paul favors CP3 and his supporting cast, as the Suns officially cement their playoff spot. While Steph Curry and the Warriors haven't had a strong year, they manage to steal game 1 from Portland thanks to 6 threes from Curry. However, Damian Lillard and the Blazers crank it up a notch and squeak by in Game 2 to advance.
(1) L.A. Clippers vs. (8) Phoenix
Chris Paul gives his former team fits, but ultimately the Clippers pull out a slugfest, 4-2.
(2) L.A. Lakers vs. (7) Portland
A rematch of last year's R1 series goes in a similar direction, as the Lakers crush the Blazers 4-1. Anthony Davis averages 31-15, causing many to cite him as a top 3 player overall and future MVP.
(3) Utah vs. (6) New Orleans
The surging New Orleans Pelicans are a trendy pick for an upset, but the Utah Jazz continue to play the role of sleeper well, utilizing their defense and Donovan Mitchell's scoring (29.3 per game) to a comfortable 4-2 victory.
(4) Denver vs. (5) Dallas
Luka Doncic goes bananas against a soft Denver defense, logging 37-14-8 in Game 1 and 42 points in Game 3. However, Denver manages to get the job done in a 4-3 series. After the series, talk swirls about whether the Mavericks may need a third star to take the next jump. Mark Cuban spends the offseason on rosetta stone learning Greek.
ROUND TWO
(1) L.A. Clippers vs. (4) Denver
Another rematch from last year, but one that doesn't lead to a repeat outcome. The Clippers are extremely motivated to put the Nuggets away when they have the chance, turning a 3-1 lead into a 4-1 victory this time.
(2) L.A. Lakers vs. (3) Utah
The plucky Utah Jazz give the favored Lakers everything they can handle and even take a 2-1 lead in the series. However, some big performances from LeBron James (and some questionable officiating) help the Lakers rally back to win three in a row and secure the ballyhooed showdown against the Clippers.
ROUND THREE
(1) L.A. Clippers vs. (2) L.A. Lakers
A must-see TV rematch between Kawhi Leonard and LeBron James comes down to the "Others," as new Clippers' SG Luke Kennard plays much better than Lakers' shooters KCP and Kyle Kuzma. When the dust settles, the Clippers pull it out 4-2. After the series, the Lakers cite a lingering wrist injury to Anthony Davis as a potential reason why they didn't look 100%.
NBA FINALS
(2) Brooklyn Nets vs. (1) L.A. Clippers
The NBA world misses out on a KD-LeBron series (or a Kyrie-LeBron series, depending on your perspective), but we still get an awesome matchup with other superstars like Durant and Kawhi Leonard. Leonard and Paul George bother KD to some degree, but the Nets' backcourt of Kyrie Irving and Joe Harris keeps their offense moving nonetheless. Irving has a few signature games (37 in Game 2, 31-9 in Game 5) compared to a quieter Paul George (15.8 PPG in the series) and helps the BROOKLYN NETS win the NBA CHAMPIONSHIP in a 4-2 win. KD wins a close vote for Finals MVP, but Irving and coach Steve Nash get a lot of credit as well.
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5dimes is stealing from Future Players

5dimes is closing to all US customers. They seem to want to do things the right way as they gave us a warning and said we can cash out. So the stance they are taking on Future tickets is a bit mind-boggling.
There are a ton of people that bet futures, particularly to WIN Championships like the NBA or NHL. 5dimes cut off date for wagers to be graded is 9/21. This is before the completion of the NBA/NHL finals. 5dimes current stance is if a wager that is pending cannot be graded on 9/21, then it is a cancelled bet. Sounds good in theory.
However, the NBA and NHL Finals will not be concluded by that date. Although the Finals will be underway. By their rule, all teams still alive will be refunded.
Here's the issue, they are grading all teams that lose, losers. So, Every team that was bet on besides the two that are in the finals, 5dimes is grading a LOSER. The teams remaining are cancelled. In booking, its very black and white. You can't have a loser without a winner. They are essentially grading all bets that give them money yet any risk of payout those bets are cancelled. I contacted CS as made this point and was told essentially fuck off.
Here's my situation. (And alot of people's situation who bet on the NBA/NHL Finals) I purchased Lightning to win the Cup at +650 for $500. This pays $3000+ I then purchased Stars to win the Cup at +735 for $445. This pays $3000+ Late in the Stars vs Avs series, I'd hedge my bet(and fading Vegas Knights) I took Avs to win the Cup for $450 at +650. So I had 3 of the remaining 4 teams given Vegas and Lightning were about to close or did close series. Avs lost the series, they took my $500. -$500 on my bets currently.
If (eh, let's be honest) WHEN the Lightning win the East, The Lightning to win the Cup maybe FAVORED. Yet, my +600 ticket will be deemed cancelled when the only price available maybe MINUS money. I'm getting no payout for being right series ago. It's both theoretical and possible we ahve a Stars vs Lightning Finals in which I'd be guaranteed almost $3000 in profit without doing anything as I'll have both Finals. Yet, I will finish my NHL future bets at -500 despite having both finals teams because they aren't paying winners but charging losers. And truly my Avs bet was a hedge.
(If you hate hockey, imagine having Lakers, Celtics and Clippers tickets at all plus money and knowing you can only lose money even if its LA vs Celtics in the finals)
There are two options. 1. Either don't grade losers and you cancel the entire bet (again you can't have losers without winners)
  1. you payout winners past on the hedge odds. If Lightning is +600 on future ticket and in Finals their opponent is +100, I should be collecting HALF my TO Win and get back my to risk.
    You simply cannot fairly/ethically/justifiably collect ALL losing tickets, 30 teams of losing tickets, then cancel the 2 teams that can possibly win.
If you're still not outraged. 5dimes is STILL taking bets on NBA and NHL futures knowing you can only LOSE or Cancel bet.
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[OC] Expansion and Realignment Proposal

Lately I've seen various news articles suggesting that the NBA may be interested in expanding and/or reducing team travel in upcoming seasons. I've developed a proposalto accomplish both goals while also creating more logical divisions and enhancing team rivalries, which a podcaster (I believe Chris Vernon?) recently suggested for building more excitement in the league.
To start, I would add two expansion teams to the NBA, bringing the total to 32 - the same number of teams as the NFL and conveniently divisible by 2, 4, 8, and 16 - so each conference could have 16 teams and each division could have 4 or 8 teams.
CBS Sports suggested four potential expansion cities - Seattle, Las Vegas, Kansas City, and Mexico City. Seattle is a no-brainer, as any NBA fan would like to see a return of the Supersonics, and the ongoing retrofit of the city's arena will make the logistics of a Sonics return much simpler. The CBS article notes that KC would be a relatively small market, while Mexico City would pose its own logistical challenges, so I think Vegas is the most likely spot for the NBA's 32nd team given its rapid growth, successful integration of the WNBA and NHL, and the sheer number of wealthy tourists passing through the city on a regular basis.
With Seattle and Las Vegas in the mix, I organized teams into pairs based on geography. I paired each team with a "geographic rival" to form the building blocks of new NBA divisions. Some of these were obvious. The teams sharing markets in LA and NYC should be in the same division, as should the NorCal and Florida teams.
Atlanta and Charlotte make sense as rivals due to their proximity, and their rebuilding situations could lead to an intriguing rivalry. Similarly, Denver and Utah are in similar places geographically and as second-tier contenders, and who wouldn't want to see Murray-Mitchell duels throughout the regular season?
The inclusion of Seattle and Vegas create obvious geographic rivals for Portland and Phoenix, respectively, setting up potential battles for the Pacific Northwest and Desert Southwest throughout the year. Thus far, the Western Conference would consist of LAC-LAL, GSW-SAC, DEN-UTA, SEA-POR, and LVG-PHO, accounting for 10 of the 16 eventual teams in the West. Looking at the remaining 7 current West teams reveals a more complicated geographic picture, so I'll explain my rationale for sorting them with the caveat that there are many paths forward from here.
First, as you may have guessed from the addition of two Western Conference teams, we will move Minnesota to the East and come back to them later. That leaves OKC, MEM, NOP, and the three Texas teams in the West. In my opinion, pairing New Orleans and Memphis makes a ton of sense, as they are relatively close to one another and already showcase a budding rivalry between the top two picks of the 2019 draft. OKC is much closer to Dallas than San Antonio or Houston, so I'd pair OKC-DAL and SAS-HOU to round out the Western Conference. Finally, as I had hoped to create 8-team divisions, we could sort the four California teams, Seattle, Portland, Vegas, and Phoenix into a new "Pacific" division, with the remaining three Texas teams, Utah, Denver, OKC, Memphis, and New Orleans sorted into a "Southwest" division.
Moving over to the Eastern Conference, the geographic rivalry situation becomes a bit more complicated. In addition to the aforementioned four Southeast teams, the conference includes seven teams clustered near the Great Lakes and five teams along the Northeast Corridor. While there are some teams in close proximity such as Milwaukee-Chicago, that pairing would leave Minnesota alone and forced to pair with a more distant team such as Indiana. Thus, I paired Minnesota with Milwaukee, Chicago with Indiana (reigniting the 90s rivalry), and Detroit with Cleveland (two teams in similar rebuilding situations).
Philadelphia may be closer to NYC, but as those two teams are already paired, I paired Philly with Washington. This leaves Boston and Toronto as the odd teams out, and although they would travel more than most other teams, I wouldn't mind seeing a few extra games each year between these two perennial contenders. Sorting the teams into 8-team divisions isn't very straightforward, but I placed Boston-Toronto in the Northeast division to join the Great Lakes teams (MIN-MIL, CHI-IND, DET-CLE). This would place the New York teams, the Florida teams, Philadelphia, Washington, Charlotte, and Atlanta in the Atlantic division.
Perhaps these divisions aren't totally logical, but I'm pretty sure they would minimize travel time. They could also be adjusted for other possible expansion teams in place of Las Vegas. For example, if Kansas City replaces Vegas, KC could replace Utah as Denver's geographic rival, while Utah could replace Vegas as Phoenix's rival. Similarly, if Mexico City replaces Vegas, Mexico City could replace Houston as San Antonio's rival, Dallas could replace San Antonio as Houston's rival, Denver could replace Dallas as OKC's rival, and Utah could once again replace Vegas as Phoenix's rival. Similar logic could smoothly incorporate other possible expansion cities such as San Diego, Louisville, Montreal, and Virginia Beach.
A 32-team league with geographic rivals could translate pretty clearly into a permanent 72-game schedule, which could also boost player health and enhance playoff game quality. Each team would play the other 31 teams twice, once at home and once away, for a total of 62 leaguewide games. Teams could then play each division rival one additional time (7 total games), with home/away/home splits swapped each year, and then could play their geographic rival 3 additional times for a total of 62+7+3=72 games.
I came up with this in my free time as a Google MyMaps exercise, so I'm really intrigued to hear feedback from those of you who think about the NBA more than me! Happy offseason folks!
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15 Probably Biased Reasons the Miami Heat can defeat the Los Angeles Lakers in the NBA Finals

Alright so instead of doing any school work I spent the last four hours or so coming up with a list of reasons I feel good about our chances in this series. I wrote this with a non-heat-fan audience in mind because my plan was to post it on FB, so you may notice a bunch of stuff in there that is common knowledge in this sub (esp when I talk about Spo). If someone wants the source for a specific stat, let me know. Didn't feel like citing every single thing lol. Thanks in advance to anyone who takes the time to read! I've been a die-hard fan since 2004, and this squad is probably my favorite. What a magical run. I'm grateful to share it with all you guys! Enjoy my rambling:
  1. Strength in numbers. Everyone is talking about LA having the two best players in this series, but so far only JJ Redick has pointed out that Miami has the next best five. This must mean something, right? Maybe this is a point of contention, but, to me, 5 very good players > 2 outstanding players.
  2. Built for LeBron. Throughout LeBron’s tenure in the league, there has been a group of players that have consistently been able to guard him effectively. Of the eight players who were the best at guarding LeBron between 2014 and 2018, three are on Miami. Iguodala (#8), Crowder (#6), and Butler (#4). While Jimmy has excelled at limiting Bron’s FG% (a 13% decrease in accuracy) and forcing him to turn the ball over (a 29% increase), Crowder has limited his scoring volume (33% fewer points) and assists (39% fewer assists), with a similar impact from Iggy (20% fewer points, 29% fewer assists). Not to mention, Miami has two more players that can switch onto any position 1-5: Derrick Jones Jr. and Bam. Bam came into this league as a defensive specialist, and this asset of his has not been reduced, which is evidenced by his election to the NBA All-defensive team this year. DJJ is a defensive machine, with a 7’0” wingspan that frequents passing lanes. From this perspective, this team actually appears like it was built to handle LeBron.
  3. LeBron has struggled against Miami since he left in 2014. Between 2014 and 2018, LeBron was 0-8 when playing in Miami. This includes losing to a team that went 37-45 and a team that started off 2016 going 11-30, led by Dion Waiters… It’s clear that LeBron does not play his best basketball when the Heat are in their comfort zone. Amidst the media effort to discredit Miami all playoffs (an argument for another time), there has been a common viewpoint: the Orlando bubble has generated a relative homecourt advantage for the Heat. They’re playing in the same climate, they’ve been within a few hours of their families all along, and, heck, they probably even have some of their local TV channels in their hotel. This may be a stretch, but one can’t ignore that they have the same win percentage (80%) in the bubble that they did when playing at home this season. If the Heat continue to play like they’re the home team this season, history suggests LeBron will have a hard time.
  4. “Playoff LeBron” is less relevant here. Bron has never had to play against Miami in the playoffs before. His getting to the finals 9 of the last 10 years means a lot less when you consider 4 of those times were with the Heat and none of the other times were against them. More importantly, he has never had to battle Erik Spoelstra in a playoff series. If you have been watching Miami in these playoffs, you’ve had the fortune of watching Spo make major adjustments from game to game. This is a team that never repeats mistakes and is subsequently very tough to exploit.
  5. LA’s biggest strengths will be weaknesses against Miami. At first glance, the most threatening aspects of LA’s game against Miami (aside from the obvious greatness of LeBron and AD) are their height and their dominance in the paint. We need to consider the flipside of these powers, though; when LA goes big, they sacrifice pacing significantly. Anyone who watched Miami during the season saw how lethal they are in the fast break and how quickly they can move the ball to find the open man. LA can’t afford to sacrifice speed for the sake of height. And if LA chooses to close off the paint to drives from Bam, Jimmy, Dragic, and Herro, they will inevitably give up open threes. This would be an absolute gift to Duncan Robinson, who has the 5th best 3pt % of all time, even ahead of Steph Curry. Not to mention the elite shooting offered by Tyler Herro, the ever-present threat of Jae Crowder getting streaky (Jae had a 4-game stretch in the playoffs in which he shot 20/41 from three), and the strong 3pt shooting of Dragic. In fact, every player on Miami besides Bam can and will shoot the three ball. Even Jimmy has made one out of every three of his attempts in the playoffs, and Iggy went 4 for 4 in Game 6 of the ECF. Look for LA to have a hard time finding the balance between keeping Miami’s aggressors out of the paint without freeing up the perimeter – an issue Miami needs to worry much less about.
  6. Bam is statistically favored in a matchup with Anthony Davis. Sure, AD is going to outscore Bam. But in terms of their relative impact on each other, the analytics favor Bam. AD will not be able to score in isolation the way he did against Denver (and without that high-percentage iso scoring, LA loses Games 2 and 4 in that series, potentially prompting a 7-game series). Bam is slightly favored from an offensive perspective too, assuming AD guards him most of the time.
    1. Bam ranks 3rd in the NBA in direct isolation defense.
    2. Bam ranks 3rd in the NBA in points per drive, while AD ranks 4th.
    3. Bam ranks 12th in the NBA in points allowed per drive, while AD ranks 66th!!!
    4. Bam is killing it on the boards in the playoffs, grabbing 11.2 rpg (5th in the playoffs), compared to 9.3 by AD (14th in the playoffs).
    5. AD’s standout performances in the playoffs so far should be qualified by the fact that he faced slow defenders on the Nuggets and Blazers and had a humungous height advantage against the Rockets. Bam has none of these vulnerabilities.
  7. LA has no answer for Miami’s three-point shooting. LA has allowed teams to shoot 36.6% from three in the playoffs (ranked 9th), and, as my reasoning from #5 above suggests, this is the Heat’s bread and butter. Consider also that Boston’s league-best perimeter defense (held opponents to 31% 3pt in the playoffs) wasn’t enough to beat the Heat. If Miami can beat a team that negates their strongest skill in 6 games, imagine what they can do without that obstacle. If the 3pt flood gates open for Miami, LA will need to respond with threes of their own. Well, there’s an answer for that, too. Miami is 2nd in 3pt defense in the playoffs. Say goodbye to pretty much any usefulness from Danny Green and Kyle Kuzma.
  8. Miami wins the free throw battle. The Heat are shooting 82.1% from the FT line in the playoffs, while LA is shooting a concerning 74.7% on two less attempts per game. Bam is personally shooting 82.4% (which is nuts for a center) and has steadily been getting to the line more and more. LA will need to hope AD gets to the line much more than LeBron does to try to balance out his poor shooting from the stripe (74.1% vs. AD’s 81%).
  9. Erik Spoesltra is going to coach circles around Frank Vogel. I don’t think anyone can even remotely challenge this, but just to be safe, I’ll cite a few of the adjustments Spo has expertly made in the playoffs so far. I’m sure Vogel has made minor but impactful adjustments that I didn’t register, but he certainly hasn’t made any as big as Spo has. Most notable for Vogel in my opinion were the times he has gotten creative with Rondo and Dwight’s minutes. Aside from those, their play in the bubble has just seemed like LeBron driving and/or feeding AD while the sponge brains that fill out the roster do what LeBron tells them so he doesn’t look at them with fatherly disappointment. Some examples of Spo’s adjustments are:
    1. Put Dragic in the starting lineup after his 6th Man of the Year level performance all season coming off the bench. Spo had the foresight to change Dragic’s role even though he absolutely brutalized second strings all year long. This resulted in Dragic consistently dropping over 20 points all playoffs and being a source of offense when it wasn’t coming from anywhere else.
    2. Benched Kendrick Nunn after starting him all year long and him finishing 2nd in Rookie of the Year voting. Spo then eliminated all Nunn’s minutes when he realized his skillset wasn’t going to be maximally productive against Boston. This had a huge effect on game outcomes.
    3. Benched Meyers Leonard after starting him every game this season. Meyers gave this team height and a huge 3pt threat. Conceding both of these benefits after they blatantly contributed to winning also paid off big time. Another example of Spo taking what the other team gives him rather than stubbornly using a proven system. He has a rare immunity to the dangerous “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” mindset in that he fixes things before they even have a chance to break.
    4. Designed the only defensive scheme that has been able to contain Giannis all year long. Literally no other team has been able to do this. If it was as simple as “building a wall”, other teams would have done it. Miami did it effectively during the season (2-1) and the playoffs (4-1), with the latter including minor adjustments to contain Middleton and render Bledsoe useless.
    5. Executed a zone that effectively contained the Celtics offense. If it weren’t for Tatum, Brown, Walker, and Smart reliably hitting tightly contested threes and midrange jumpers, this may have been a 4-1 series. Aside from Game 3 and the 3rd quarter of Game 5, Brad Stevens had almost no answer for the zone despite having at least three incredible scorers on the floor at all times.
  10. Unpredictability factor. If Miami successfully defends Bron and AD, those two will have nobody else to go to for scoring. Throughout these entire playoffs, a Laker whose name isn’t LeBron or Anthony has only scored more than 18 points one time, and it was Rondo (while Rondo does represent a bit of a wildcard, I am pretty confident he will not have a 20 point game in this series). In 8 of the 15 games, none of their non-Bron or non-AD guys even exceeded 15 points. LeBron and AD are the only players averaging over 11. The Heat have SIX players averaging over 11. Anyone can have themselves a game on any given night. No amount of film can prepare the Lakers for it. There are games where Duncan Robinson hits 7 or 8 threes. Bam just put up 32, 14, and 5 to close out the East Finals. 20-year-old Tyler Herro put up 37 off the bench against a Brad Stevens defense. Jimmy put up 40 against the best defensive team in the NBA. Dragic has been consistently putting up 20 or more as a reliable cushion. No one can argue that planning a defensive scheme is going to be a more complex problem for Vogel than it will be for Spo, who has time and time again proven he is LeBron’s toughest challenge in this league. The only new variables for Spo’s consideration are AD’s scoring, Rondo’s playmaking (in limited minutes), and how much less of a 3-point threat this team is than LeBron’s previous teams.
  11. Boston is a better overall team than LA, and Miami busted through them in 6 games. Hot take, I know. But consider that Boston blew out LA 139-107 this year. Boston has 3 of the best, craftiest scorers in the league, along with the efficient Gordon Hayward and the breakout two-way phenomenon that is Marcus Smart. Miami did not match up well with Boston at all, and they still made it out of the East. And in the continued interest of disrespecting Frank Vogel: Brad Stevens >>> Vogel.
  12. Miami has been preparing for this for months. Everyone knew it would be an LA team coming out of the West, and once we saw Playoff P become Wayoff P, I think we all figured it would be the Lakers. But even before this, back when the season shut down, you can believe Spo was in the lab cooking up a plan for the Lakers. I don’t think anyone can deny Spo is one of the smartest coaches in the league. If you think he didn’t spend at least some of the 3 months he was stuck in his house planning for a potential Lakers matchup, you’re in a clinically worrisome state of denial. Similarly, you’re out of your mind if you think LA spent a single second planning for Miami before they took over the Bucks series. Even after that, how much time can a coach really dedicate to planning for another team when your guys are still battling to advance? This obviously applies to both parties, but Miami has the clear pre-bubble advantage here. Some sources actually gave Miami 110-1 odds of making the finals when the season started. Who in their right mind would scout a team like that when Giannis was having an MVP season and leading the Bucks to the best record in the NBA? Hell, even after Miami gentlemen-swept the #1 seed Bucks, ESPN still didn’t dive into what Miami was doing right. Instead, they spent three days talking about who Giannis was following on Instagram. This team has the clear benefit of no one giving a shit about them until now, while LA has been public enemy #1 for a year. It’s also worth mentioning that Miami plays what is probably the closest thing to “position-less basketball” in the league. It even caused league-wide head scratching when it came time to vote for All Stars by position: nobody had any idea what position Jimmy Butler played. This sort of free-flowing, unrestricted playstyle is intrinsically challenging to plan for. This Laker team has never dealt with the spin Bam puts on the point-center role. Jokic is a skilled playmaker but he is much slower than Bam, and PJ Tucker lacks playmaking and height. This will be an entirely new challenge for LA.
  13. No NBA coach has LeBron’s number the way Spo does. He coached him for 4 years and did such an effective, focused job at it that it resulted in 2 titles in that time. Compare that to Bron winning just 1 other title in the other 12 years he played before this season. Yeah, yeah, he had Wade and Bosh, but that doesn’t take away from the fact that Bron’s time in Miami was huge for his growth as a leader and playmaker. Spo and Pat Riley’s teachings are a huge part of the way Bron sees the game now. If they were able to exploit this in one-off, meaningless regular season games, imagine what they can do in a series with a championship on the line.
  14. LA has not been tested in the playoffs. Miami has, and they’ve adapted. Aside from losing Game 1 against Portland and Houston, what tests have the Lakers faced? They opened up the playoffs against the defensive-trash-can Trailblazers who gave actual minutes to Hassan Whiteside, a player so detrimental to his team that Miami effectively paid to get rid of him, and had to deal with an injured Damian Lillard for two games. Then they went up against their best mismatch in the entire league, the small-ball Rockets. Not only could they feast on the height gap, they could reap the benefits of Houston’s offense relying on Westbrook’s drunk-driving, rabid-animal, Stevie-Wonder-passing playstyle and Harden’s contested threes and chronic need to get calls. Finally, they played the Denver Nuggets, who were admittedly very impressive, but were still only the 11th net rated team in the league. They avoided the Clippers entirely. Compare this to a Miami team who was given a .02% chance of making it past the 2nd round. A team whose 2nd playoff matchup was against the #1 team in the league with the #1 defensive rating, back-to-back MVP, Defensive Player of the Year, and three players from the All-Defensive Team. A team who then had to battle the Boston Celtics, a team loaded with top draft picks. Butler even admitted the Celtics have more talented players, and I think we can all agree with that. Miami was tested in both of these series. They had to generate a defensive scheme to stop the 2x MVP while still containing Middleton, a rare midrange specialist. They had to completely change their approach against Boston, a team with more scoring versatility than any team in the league. LA has a much realer chance of entering this series from a place of complacency, having hardly needed to adapt so far. Miami has been developing the entire time.
  15. Miami’s mindset is more conducive to winning a title. The narrative for this Heat squad is that they individually and collectively have a chip on their shoulder. This is the narrative not simply because ESPN realized people are tired of hearing the word “culture.” It’s the narrative because it’s true at every level. From the undrafted Duncan Robinson who was actively pursuing a career in media just three years ago, to the under-recruited Jimmy Butler whose mom kicked him out at age 13 because she “didn’t like his looks”, these guys all have a shared mentality. This is the intersecting point of at least 10 different sad storylines, all coming together to prove something. We’ve seen it each of the seven times they have beaten Vegas’s odds. We’ve seen it each time they’ve recovered from 15+ point deficits. We just saw it against the Celtics when Bam took the blame for losing Game 5 and then dropped a career high in Game 6. Juxtapose this team-wide mentality to the Lakers, who, more than anything, are trying not to lose. I don’t expect everyone to agree with me here. Probably no one will. But hear me out. Yes, the Lakers are playing for Kobe. But, the effect of that isn’t as simple as inspiring them to win. It’s putting pressure on them to not blow this. The Lakers have two of the best players in the NBA, and one of them is one of the greatest athletes in history. They’re a 1 seed going up against a 5 seed built on completely opposite principles: player development and organization-wide commitment. They risk being the catalyst for a paradigm shift in how teams are built. If LA loses, league executives will need to question super teams and tanking for draft picks, two of the prevailing approaches to winning for more than the last decade, and genuinely consider Miami’s approach. This storyline would go hand-in-hand with LeBron ruining his legacy with his finals record becoming 3-7. This could be the straw that breaks the Jordan comparison’s back. I’m not saying LeBron’s fear of a 7th finals loss is greater than his desire for a 4th finals win. I’m not saying he is more worried about disappointing Kobe than he is motivated to honor Kobe. I’m not saying he is more scared of the entire-locker-room-for-AD trade not paying off than he is excited to use the power of them as a duo in the finals. What I am saying is that he and the Lakers have so much more to lose than the Heat do, and, if we learned anything from the Clippers this year, it’s that fear of losing is not an optimal motivator. Not when you compare it to what is driving this Miami team.
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EDIT: fixed numbering formatting
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Greatest Male Players in Challenge History: No. 1 - Landon Lueck

Honorable Mentions - Abram, Brad, Dan S., Jamie, Mike M., Theo V., Turbo, Wes
No. 10 - Alton Williams (Real World: Las Vegas)
No. 9 - Mark Long (Road Rules: USA - The First Adventure)
No. 8 - Darrell Taylor (Road Rules: Campus Crawl)
No. 7 - Derrick Kosinski (Road Rules: X-Treme)
No. 6 - Kenny Santucci (Fresh Meat)
No. 5 - Evan Starkman (Fresh Meat)
No. 4 - C.T. Tamburello (Real World: Paris)
No. 3 - Jordan Wiseley (Real World: Portland)
No. 2 - Johnny Bananas (Real World: Key West)
No. 1 - Landon Lueck (Real World: Philadelphia)
 
Good Guy Landon has one of the greatest rookie campaigns ever on Inferno II.
 
Despite being the only male rookie on his team, Landon went on to outperform everyone on his team. Landon lead the Good Guys in four life shields, Mike came in 2nd with three, and Darrell came in third place by winning one. The four life shields Landon won tested upper body strength (Zip Up), mental strength (Heart Rate Bungee), and other various skills (Time to Ride and Dodge Yer Balls). Good Guy Landon not only excelled in missions. Landon went 2-0 in the elimination floor (won against Karamo in a physical-strategy game and beat Dan in a climbing contest where players had to use pegs to climb up a wall). From a pure competition standpoint, I’d say Landon was the second best performer out of both teams, coming in second (C.T. won 6 life shields for the Bad Asses, two more than Landon). However, in the end, CT’s team didn’t win and Landon’s did, so you can always make the argument that Landon was the MVP of the championship team, therefore the number one performer when taking the ultimate victory into account.
 
Landon’s Zip Up (Inferno II) is one of the greatest mission performances of all-time.
 
In Zip Up, there were two identical zip lines high in the air (one for each team). Once at a time, players from both teams were suspended from these zip lines and below them were travel lines they had to use to pull themselves up. The goal of the mission was to travel as far as you can in a 2 minute time limit. The travel line was on a steady incline making it difficult to travel the higher you’d go. On the travel line, there were meter markers attached to the lines to indicate how far each player traveled. At the end, the team with the highest cumulative distance reached would win the mission. Zip Up was a test of pure upper body strength and muscular endurance. There were eight heats.
 
The Good Guys trailed for almost the whole competition and right before the final heat, they finally caught up and evened the score with the Bad Asses. The outcome of the mission was going to be determined by the final match-up. The last Good Guys player to go was Landon, and C.T. was the last player to represent the Bad Asses. The responsibility to win now laid in the hands of the best players on each team. It couldn’t get more epic than that. Up until to that point, here were the meters traveled by the rest of the competitive field: Mike Mizanin – 17 meters, Abram – 20, Darrell – 20, Derrick – 26, and Brad – 28 m. In the final heat, C.T. reached 26 meters and Landon got to a staggering 33 meters. Not only did Landon’s clutch performance win Zip Up for the Good Guys team, but he blew the physical brute C.T. out the water in a mission that was catered to C.T.’s physical strength. Landon doubled Mike’s distance, who was one of the strongest guys during this period of time. Landon might’ve not been built with humongous size like C.T. or Mike, but his strength and physical endurance was out of this world, and Zip Up confirms that.
 
Landon became the General to Captain Alton on Gauntlet II.
 
In Landon’s sophomore season, he was cast on the Rookies, where he became the second best player on the team after Captain Alton. Every time teams had to come up with pairs for missions (Balancing Act and Easy Does It), Alton paired up with Landon and those two put up the best time/score becoming the sole reason the Rookies won that mission.
 
In Balancing Act, pairs had to walk across parallel tight ropes while facing one another using a small rope to help them control their balance. Twelve pairs competed. Eleven of them failed miserably. The only pair to complete the challenge were Alton and Landon giving the Rookies the win.
 
In Easy Does It, pairs had to climb up a rope ladder and transfer themselves across a tilting platform under a certain time limit. Alton and Landon were one of only four pairs (the other six failed) to complete the mission and they did it the fastest. The Rookies won again.
 
Alton recognized that other than him, Landon was the best athlete on his team which is why he was always pairing with him in missions and calling him “General Landon” all season long. Although Landon wasn’t of the highest rank within the Rookies, being second-in-line allowed him to avoid the gauntlet and make it to the final challenge. The Rookies won the finals and Landon reeled in another trophy on his sophomore season.
 
General Landon turned into Lando Commando on the Duel II.
 
By Landon’s third season, it was evident that he was done being the ultimate competitor sidekick to Boston Robot CT on Inferno II and Superman Alton on Gauntlet II. Landon was now the number one guy. On the Duel II, Landon’s opposition was Brad, Evan, and Mark for the whole regular season. There were 9 regular season missions on the Duel II. One of them was a spelling bee (Spelling Air) and there was another that involved politics in which the cast basically determined who they would be fine with winning the competition (Last Man Standing). The other 7 missions in the season actually required competitive abilities. Out of those seven, Landon won five of them (All Shook Up, Burnt, Dangle Duo, Luge Your Mind, and Upside Downer), and he came in second place for the other two (Don’t Let Go and Freezing As Puck).
 
In All Shook Up, challengers fought to the death hanging onto a pair of parallel ropes above a mud pit. The goal of the mission was to shake everyone off the rope by any means necessary and be the last competitor hanging on. The final two in Landon’s first heat came down to Landon and Mark, and they had a grappling contest using just their legs to kick one another off while hanging onto the ropes for dear life. Landon successfully wrestled Mark off the ropes and soaked him in mud. Landon then went on to take care of Nehemiah and M.J. in the final heat to win the mission.
 
In Dangle Duo, individuals had to pair up with someone of the opposite sex and climb up a 100-foot chained ladder that was high in the air; fastest team to reach the bell at the top of the ladder would go on to win the mission. Landon outsmarted his opponents by being the only male to use his back as a stepping stool for his female partner, Brittni, so she can help herself climb up the ladder. The other females struggled to climb up the ladder in rapid pace due to poor upper body strength because their male partners failed to think of the same strategy Landon had thought of. Because of this, Landon and Brittni won.
 
In Upside Downer, players were suspended 200 feet into the air, over a river and had to swing from side to side using a rope under them to grab carvings that were suspended on both sides of the rope under them. The player to collect the ten carvings the fastest would go on to win the mission. Upside Downer was a mission that tested fear of heights and agility. Here were the results: Derek collected 1 tablet and was disqualified by the 10 minute time limit, M.J. collected the ten tablets with a time of 9 minutes 37 seconds, Evan - 5 minutes 27 seconds, Brad - 4 minutes 53 seconds, Mark - 2 minutes 52 seconds, and Landon got all ten with a time of 2 minutes flat. Landon performed as if he had the same exact contraption somewhere in his backyard. Landon’s Upside Downer showing was unreal, and it definitely deserves a mention in the super short list of greatest mission performances in Challenge history.
 
Landon saw two eliminations on the Duel II. He went into the fifth duel of the Season v. Isaac. They played Spot On, where they had to complete a puzzle that was located on a rock climbing wall. Puzzle-based eliminations are unsafe for any competitor, especially the best challenge athletes. They’re not allowed to use their strength or athleticism to inflict damage on their opponents, and they have to retreat to their brains to keep them alive. Puzzles are the perfect equalizers for mediocre competitors when they go up against a great athlete, but not if you’re going up against Landon (a great athlete who also happens to have ATG intelligence). Landon blew out Isaac on Spot On, just a few days after having just won the only intelligence based mission of the season, Luge My Mind.
 
Landon was one highly questionable elimination away from the only perfect career ever.
 
Landon dominated the Duel II all the way up until the final 4. When it got down to four remaining males, T.J. was out of missions and only had three spots for the finals. Landon, Brad, Evan, and Mark all had to vote one male to throw into the final male duel. Landon suggested writing down names into a hat, they all agreed and he left the room to go get pieces of paper. Fatal mistake. As soon as Landon left the room, the rest of the group plotted behind his back and agreed to write his name down and vote him in. Landon chose to go against Brad in the final male duel, Back Off, and lost 2-1 in a best-of-three rounds.
 
It’s a universal opinion within the Challenge fandom that Brad vs. Landon is one of the most questionable elimination results in challenge history. Landon was disqualified in the first round for not going after Brad’s ring and Brad got away with doing the same exact thing that Landon did in later rounds that got him the victory. Brad swinging Landon’s hook was such an illegal prayer of a move that was legal? Challenge production screwed this one up. I’m convinced they forgot to explain what wasn’t allowed and just let Brad win without making it a bigger controversy. Had Brad never “legally” swung Landon’s hook, Landon would’ve won the elimination and the final challenge would’ve been his to win.
 
Landon’s loss to Brad is the only blemish in his record. Not just elimination record. I’m talking career record. Landon is the greatest finals runner to ever exist in America’s Fifth Sport (only Jordan rivals him in this element). His performance in the Fresh Meat II final (which I get into later) manifests this notion. Landon’s ATG stamina and his upbringing of great outdoor activities – biking, hiking, and climbing – have allowed him to dominate every final challenge thrown his way. The Duel II final was tailor-made for him. Theoretically speaking, if the Back Off elimination was called fair, Landon eliminates Brad, goes to the final and wins comfortably barring the chance he gets eaten by a bear on his way to the finish line. Landon’s career then becomes: 6-0 elimination record, 4 out of 4 finals appearances, 4 out of 4 championship seasons, and a triple crown achievement. In the Challenge, no one is invincible. Landon almost was. Landon was one strange officiated elimination away from the only picture perfect career ever in Challenge history. But the reality is: Landon has a 5-1 elimination record, 3 out of 4 finals, and 3 out of 4 championships and that’s more than enough to take the Challenge throne…Especially, when you take into consideration the breaking record performances he had in his last championship season, Fresh Meat II.
 
Landon’s Fresh Meat II is the most impressive season performance in challenge history.
 
This is the season where the personality of Good Guy Landon and the out of this world physical abilities of Lando Commando join forces to make the perfect example of a what a challenge competitor should be. On FM2, Landon was dealt the worst hand you can ask for in Challenge land, a terrible partner. He was paired up with Carley, who is undoubtedly one of the worst female competitors to ever put on a Challenge uniform. There’s been 168 females to ever compete in the Challenge; Carley doesn’t crack top 150 if we’re judging based off pure competitive abilities. That’s how terrible Carley was. Landon still miraculously managed to win two missions with Carley. They were the only pair other than Kenny/Laurel to win multiple missions on FM2. Landon also won two exiles, despite having to drag Carley around who nearly died on more than one occasion, because her shape and conditioning was deadly poor.
 
Landon non-believers would argue that his FM2 win was against an average bunch. This is false. Landon’s high end opposition was Kenny and Laurel, Luke and Evelyn, Pete and Jillian, and Noor and Jenn. Laurel and Evelyn are the top 2 females to ever compete in the Challenge. Kenny, although average throughout his career as a competitor was a workhorse on FM2. Jenn and Jillian were well established veterans and above average competitors. Their partners Pete and Noor were some of the best rookie athletes the Challenge had seen during that time period. The competition in the final stages of FM2 was stacked and Landon defeated all of them while having a dead body attached to his hip that he had to carry around throughout the show’s entirety.
 
Exile v. The Women’s Division G.O.A.T.
 
As mentioned above, Carley doesn’t crack the top 150 females to have ever compete. Evelyn has a strong case for being the number one female ever from a pure competition standpoint. Her partner, Luke, is the definition of an Average Joe based off his performances on FM2 and Cutthroat. He wasn’t the fastest or the strongest. He actually had a smaller build than ninety percent of the males cast on the Challenge, but he was athletic, showed various skill (beat Big Easy in Swat), and proved himself as a long distance runner in the grueling Cutthroat final. There’s been 161 males to have ever compete on the Challenge. If I had to make a rough estimate where Luke ranked amongst every male to ever lace them up, I’d say Luke is somewhere between 70-80, worst case scenario.
 
The tale of the tape for the Landon/Carley v. Evelyn/Luke exile that happened at the end of the season was basically looking like: #1 all-time male Landon and #150 all-time female Carley vs. #1 all-time female Evelyn and #75 all-time Luke. The title for the gender-neutral G.O.A.T. title was on the line. Going into the exile, Evelyn had the large upper hand (a far better opposite sex partner). It was evident that Landon was going to have to break his back to have a chance at winning.
 
When the exile went underway, Carley blacked out and couldn’t carry any of the weights in her buckets. Landon carried all 150 pounds by himself, whereas Luke and Evelyn split carried theirs. Along with carrying all of Carley’s weight, he solved all three puzzles without her help because she was too busy trying to figure out where she was. Carley was a lifeless zombie. Landon literally dragged his lifeless zombie partner to the exile finish line, and finished with a faster time than Luke/Evelyn, eliminating them from FM2.
 
Landon’s exile performance against Luke/Evelyn might just be his greatest work ever (in an already extremely long laundry list of great work he’s done), but I got it second to his 100 point performance in the final challenge of FM2.
 
Landon’s final challenge performance on Fresh Meat II is the Challenge’s edition of Wilt’s 100 point game.
 
In the FM2 final, Landon/Carley faced the powerhouse team of the season, Kenny/Laurel. Kenny is widely considered one of the greatest long distance runners ever and Laurel is the second best female competitor to have ever exist in Challenge history. Landon had to deal with Carley’s deathly poor conditioning for another time for longer, greater distances against an even more elite duo than the one they had overcome in their exile just a few nights before. It was going to be impossible for Landon to win, but he defied all odds once again for one final time.
 
What Landon did in the Fresh Meat II final is equivalent to scoring a 100 point game in professional basketball. Landon scored 100 points by carrying an 80 pound bag without Carley’s assistance throughout the whole final, completing every checkpoint by himself, and pushing his lifeless anchor of a partner up a mountain to get them to the finish line first before the powerhouse duo of Kenny/Laurel.
 
Landon’s FM2 final challenge performance, just like Wilt’s 100 will never be topped again. I want to add more to this analogy by saying Landon’s FM2 regular season performance mirrors the greatest scoring season ever in NBA history, also by Wilt Chamberlain. Landon basically was putting up 50 points a game in Challenge terms by having to endure Carley’s W.O.A.T. tier abilities all season, and still winning missions, eliminations and the final at the very end. Landon’s good guy personality allowed him to keep calm, never lose his cool, and be the most encouraging and supportive partner Carley could ever ask for in a show where 90 percent of the people can never keep calm, are always losing their cool, and never ever supportive when they’re paired up with someone terrible.
 
Put the rest of the Mount Rushmore in Landon’s shoes on Fresh Meat 2. Envision current Jordan, a prime J.B., or a prime C.T. being paired up with the extremely terrible Carley. Jordan - Carley probably quits halfway in the competition because she can no longer tolerate the way Jordan speaks down on her competitive abilities. Assuming she doesn’t quit, Jordan is not strong enough to carry all 150 pounds in the exile all by himself and loses to Luke/Evelyn; plus his puzzle skills aren’t on the level of Landon’s; Bananas - Same as Jordan; C.T. – This one is interesting, because C.T. can easily carry all the exile weight by himself and finish the puzzles, and wins against Luke/Evelyn. However, prime C.T. was a loose cannon. In the small chance he does reach the final, he probably would’ve thrown Carley off the mountain and we would’ve never heard from her again. You get the narrative.
 
The 100 point final game and averaging 50 points throughout the FM2 season is why I have Landon #1 all-time, because I don’t think Jordan, J.B., or C.T. would have ever accomplished the same. None of these guys, in any version of themselves ever, possessed Landon’s patience and good-hearted personality that would’ve been able to keep Carley’s lifeline alive. This leads to my final point which is: Landon is only ‘total package’ competitor to ever touch Challenge soil; a title Jordan, J.B., and C.T. fall short of.
 
Landon’s Overall Assessment.
 
A total package in the Challenge is best described as a competitor who possesses all-time great tier abilities in nearly every element of the Challenge, while also showing no weaknesses. Numbers 2-4 of the Challenge Mount Rushmore come close to qualifying, but fall short for different reasons: Jordan has ATG athleticism, mental strength, strategy, stamina, and swimming. His shaky political game and hand-to-hand combat abilities, however, are a weakness. He also has that whole Free Agents and Total Madness showing; Bananas has ATG strategy and has a good balance in every other area. Although there aren’t any glaring holes in his competitive abilities, only one of them is considered all-time great and that fails to meet the requirement. Plus, we’ve seen some dud performances in his career; C.T. has ATG strength, athleticism, intelligence, eating, and mental strength. But I wouldn’t consider C.T. to have great leadership, he was too much of a hothead in the prime of his career. His long distance running has also shown to be faulty at times.
 
The rest of the top 10 also fail to qualify: Evan – mental strength was abysmal; Kenny – athleticism, intelligence, and various skills were poor; Darrell – same as Kenny; Derrick – adequate intelligence and smaller size hindered him in weight based eliminations; Mark – competitive killer instinct was missing; Alton – embarrassing mental strength and Battle of the Seasons is one large black hole in his resume.
 
There were no missing elements to Landon’s game whatsoever. Landon was an all-time great in the following categories: Strength, Athleticism, Intelligence, Leadership, Mental Strength, and Stamina. You can make a strong argument the he was either one of the best or at the very worst, a top 10 challenger in each of those categories. You can’t say that for any other competitor here. Landon being a total package competitor is exactly why he didn’t have to rely on a super intense political-social game to be successful. His competitive performances always kept him at the top of social structures without ever making any enemies. I’d take Landon’s laid back political/social over most guys (including Jordan and J.B., who put a bigger target on themselves and make more enemies). He wasn’t actively cutting deals or moving chess pieces, but people naturally gravitated towards him because of they looked up to him as a competitor and had a great personality. Landon’s career was extremely short in comparison to the J.B. and C.T., but there’s no question in my mind, had he kept doing more challenges, he would’ve went on to have the more successful career.
 
Along with having the best abilities out of any Challenge player ever, Landon’s accomplishments are praiseworthy enough to call him the Challenge G.O.A.T. He was the best player as a rookie on his first championship team (Inferno II Good Guys), he was the second best player on his second championship team as a sophomore (Gauntlet II Rookies), had the most dominant regular season ever and was one elimination away from winning a championship (Duel II), and has the greatest championship season ever bar none (Fresh Meat II). When you look at the summary of accomplishments in his career, what Landon did in just four seasons holds more G.O.A.T. value than what Johnny did in 20 seasons, C.T. did in seventeen, and Jordan did in seven. That’s why Landon is my #1 pick in an all-time draft of anybody ever in America’s Fifth Sport.
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