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"Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Newsletter Interview: Niemti" (uncensored edition)

I don't know if many of you guys know or heard of me, but they just posted an interview with me, and it was heavily redacted as too hot for Wikipedia.
I asked the interviewer if I can post the full version here and I can, so here's a throwaway account and the wikimarked full text if anyone's interested. (You've got to obviously copy/paste it into Wiki.)
From the intro: This quarter we interview an editor known to the community by several names. Some readers may be familiar with the name SNAAAAKE!!, others may be familiar with the name Niemti, and the oldtimers among us may even remember the name HanzoHattori. In times past this user has utilized a variety of different ip addresses, has worked through at least a half-dozen other usernames, and has worked to achieve 6 FAs and nearly 50 GAs (earning numerous Barnstars and other awards in the process). Oh, and by the way, much if not most of this work was completed in direct defiance of community-imposed sanctions. Niemti (which is how we will refer to this user for the extent of this interview) is a repeated sockpuppeteer (or "puppetmaster" depending on your vernacular), and is currently subject to two topic bans and at least one indefinite block. As such, this interview breaks with the tradition of previous WP:VG/NEWS featured editor interviews which have been restricted solely to editors in good standing.
Hello. Thanks for coming and asking me. I'm in a bad place these days.
'''1 - When did you first start editing at Wikipedia?'''
In 2004 or so.
'''What kinds of articles do you prefer to edit?'''
I think I started with history mainly. I recall how very early on I concentrated on the Chechen conflicts and WWII / the Holocaust in particular. These articles I'm not not going to recommend unless I came back and rewrote them relatively recently, like I did with [[German mistreatment of Soviet prisoners of war]] (which I began rather sensationalistic manner as “Nazi extermination of”, but then again it was millions of prisoners dying off on the most rapid rate in history and I was just seriously disturbed by both the magnitude of this and how unknown and largely forgotten it was - I hope this article helped to shine some light of this issue, which should be taught in schools at least here in Poland where much of this took place) or the [[Battle of Qala-i-Jangi]]. As for others was probably also lots of unchecked vandalism and other bad edits in a meantime, when I didn't keep an eye on them, and I'm afraid to even check them so I won't get frustrated.
Also, and speaking of sensationalism, the United States Holocaust Museum website practically entirely copy-pasted my old article titled [[Nazi crimes against ethnic Poles]] (since then renamed "Nazi crimes against Polish nation"), complete with not just the title but even uncorrected mistakes whenever I was inadvertently exaggerating things and they should've known better as the experts. They didn't reply to my inquiry email regarding this laughably bad job (which I can only hope was an odd lazy intern's doing), but now I can't find it anymore and it might have been replaced with [https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005473 just this] (a member of my extended family died just after the war after coming through the mentioned Stutthof, another survived Auschwitz I) and [https://www.ushmm.org/research/research-in-collections/search-the-collections/bibliography/poles plus also that], instead.
And here I think it might be a good time and place to write how I now deeply believe all my writing assigning various non-Jewish victims of the Reich's WWII murder operations and camp system into the 'Holocaust' label, like I did especially with my own and still incredibly misleading article [[Holocaust victims]], has been completely wrong. I was well meaning but wrong. It was really all different things just simply happening at the same time in the same regions, the entire concept of 'Holocaust victims' should be summed up as simply "most Jews under Hitler regime" with the rest being nothing but red-herring, and I'm sincerely sorry for unconsciously helping to propagate that ahistorical myth that now probably just won't die anytime soon. (There's a whole lot of Western fundamental misunderstanding of what happened here even without it, here's [http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2010/11/11/worst-madness/ a good starting point] for those interested.)
:[Speaking of de-mythologizing the history, I think I did a fine job with for example the [[Warsaw Ghetto Uprising]] regarding various recent research and controversies (there's been a lot of legend old and new that I've had to deal with in there and try to dispel), but now I can see there's been some bad editing there in a meantime from just looking at the short lead (with its needlessly misleading oversimplification regarding Stroop's role), which is what I meant with checking and frustration. Also from being unable to have it fixed in spite of how supposedly anyone can edit. And I also see a subliminal neo-Nazi propaganda website scrapbookpages.com (you might not see this at first glance, they're much more obvious in what they really are in their blog "furtherglory") [https://www.google.pl/search?num=100&espv=2&q=%22scrapbookpages.com%22+site:wikipedia.org has made since some comeback on Wikipedia] and so it should be all scrapped from articles again. This is pretty important.]
Then I mained video games. Also did quite some work on other escapistic subjects such as movies, comics, manga/anime, cartoons, books. Especially became dedicated regarding female characters.
'''What drives you to edit?'''
Right now, nothing. Used to be sharing knowledge and doing something useful for the world instead of wasting my life while struggling with ever increasing depression, but turned out I've been wasting my life (what's worse, my youth, and my future, which is now my present) all along anyway. Also for the things and people and causes that I supported or were fan of (similar as when people do things like fan art and such), but I tried to be neutral while doing this.
And something to be proud of for just for myself. Guess I wanted some sort of validation too. But now when I see people on the internet referencing my old articles I'm more of ashamed of my part of it, and I keep telling people to stop using Wikipedia and its usually more or less awful contents in any way. But I also learnt to mistrust and hate mass media over how they blatantly lie, and I used to trust them. Currently I'm just extremely pessimistic and apathetic about pretty much everything really, the state of information included. “Post-truth society” indeed.
Anyway it can be quite distressing how much average people can unquestionably trust Wikipedia, not even knowing who and how and often also why writes these articles (which often means simple ignorance if not just deliberate, conscious bias). Evidently even the USHMM people thought so at one point.
'''Which article (or set of articles) represents your best efforts at Wikipedia?'''
For “a set of articles”, for a top of my head I can tell I like what I've done with ''[[Darkstalkers]]''. Before I started in like 2011, I think there was only a stub-like series/franchise article (not even about any of the individual games) and two very small character articles. Now there's 16 articles with I think an especially nice one about [[Morrigan Aensland]]. About the same time, I also did a similar thing also with the [[Dead or Alive (series)|''Dead or Alive'']] series, that is multiplied it in the articles that are almost all at least fine in my opinion.
As for very different example of set of articles, once I began working on the character article for [[Queen (Snow White|the Queen from “Snow White”]] until soon it was becoming huge so I split the Disney version, which obviously is by far the most iconic. Then I started working on [[Evil Queen (Disney)|this new article]] and soon it somehow got even bigger still than the main one (as in 162 KB content and over 300 refs big, it's a GA now btw). And when I became absolutely obsessed with [[Morgan le Fay]] in 2014 (which I am still) and I completely rewrote hers into what might the best Arthurian article on Wikipedia (and I worked also on many others at that time, but it was rather cleaning up), I also [[Morgan le Fay in popular culture|split the 'in popular culture']] and this new article became really large if compared to the equivalent if much less organized [[fiction featuring Merlin]] and yet it's still not definitive - all while I'm trying to read/watch through at least a part of this list I compiled.
Out of these if I'd have to choose one, it would be probably Morgan's main as it's the most scientific article on the culturally most important of these subjects (both historically and today). Also because she's certainly most often very misunderstood due to this one stereotypical image coming from some popular but flat or caricaturish modern portrayals. I actually like some of these one-dimensional-evil Morgan(a)s too, but there's so much more to this for close to nine centuries years now, and I hope more people would get to learn of these other aspects.
Also my single most-referenced article might be probably [[Mai Shiranui]] with 400+ different refs. It's also one of the most complete among these really big articles. Before I took over it had like 20.
'''2 - How do you tend to regard other Wikipedians who edit at Wikipedia?'''
I don't think many people even still do anymore.
But here, and especially since I talked about ''Darkstalkers'', I should note how [[User:Beemer69]] eventually helped a lot with this later on, specifically on characters front, and also ''[[Mortal Kombat]]'' and to a lesser degree ''DOA'', and it seems she's now taken over from me at ''[[Tekken]]'' too. I can say her work on, for example, [[Jedah Dohma]] is actually much better then mine on [[Demitri Maximoff]], who's much bigger of a character, and really even on [[Hsien-Ko]] where I put much more effort due to my preference for female characters. I wouldn't even think Jedah could be Wikipedia-notable so this is truly amazing.
[[User:Gabriel Yuji]] used to be also impressive but I have no idea is he's even still active. I've seen how recently his articles being summarily redirected (by one user who seems to wield much power due to his connections and does redirecting a lot while writing poor quality articles in their place).
'''Do you consider any editors to be friends?'''
A couple but they're mostly retired like most everyone else. The aforementioned Beemer69 is still active and from what she wrote on the top of her page I've been like a mentor for her, and if so I apparently did good job there because she's very good.
'''Do you generally consider others to be colleagues, interlocutors, debate partners, obstacles?'''
Wikipedia in 2016? Most appear to be self-important bureaucrats presiding over a bunch of ideology-driven POV warriors inserting cherrypicked half-truths if not just blatant disinformation for their propaganda efforts, while it seems barely anyone does anything else in good faith. There also seem to be also some sometimes very strange-looking people who keep asking for my donations for all this.
'''Your history of sanctions at Wikipedia suggest that you have had problems with collaboration in the past. What kinds of actions/ behaviors in other editors have you found to be most likely to provoke a negative reaction from you?'''
Clique behaviour, power-tripping, partisan editing, lies, malice, ignorance, false civility, double standards, hypocrisy in general, absolutely insane levels of Byzantinelike bureaucracy. While more then once I felt for trolling and into entrapment.
'''3 - Have you noticed any changes in the culture at Wikipedia since you first began to edit? How has it changed? Do you agree with any of the changes? Do you take issue with any of them?'''
At first the changes were being positive. Even the controversial wave of deletionism from the Great Fiction Purge circa 2007/08 turned out for a better by establishing new quality standards, even if Wikia's not-so very disguised a money-making scheme. Btw I later recreated some of then deleted articles, but now properly written and sourced. Also did edit some Wikias. (Even started and wrote one whole.)
Then something happened, which you can also obviously see at how Wikipedia began slowing down and losing editors to do the work while expanding as a multi-million dollar corporation. Bureaucracy obviously got totally out of control, complete with the constant throwing of esoteric alphabet soups instead of arguments in discussions. Cliques and power-editors ('untouchables') formed, and are by probably now too entrenched even if someone tried to do anything about it and clean then house. And the social-justice-warring, identity-religion, snowflake brigade didn't even as much as invade, but were actually invited and openly organized and actually paid for with money from Wikimedia Foundation. Just see all these '[[edit-a-thon]]s' in place of the once grassroots work.
The deletionism today in some circles is just completely unreasonable (sometimes also ideologically or grudge driven). And yet also meanwhile, utter crap such as [[List of fictional witches]] is allowed to stay all these years (in this case, more than a decade) and nobody cares. I've found this pseudo-article just embarrassing for so long, and it's been about as long as I was there. And other similarly random, unsourced, forever vastly incomplete and thus also useless, trivia bullet-point lists.
Meanwhile my well-written and well-referenced articles are being given [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aya_Brea&action=history this sort of treatment] (with most flimsy reasoning and no proper discussion at all), which as it happens is incidentally the doing of the very same admin that has given me countless blocks and eventually indefed me because he hated both me personally and evidently my work here (which can be witnessed there, obviously). This thing right there actually greatly contributed to be burn me out, as I've had already 20 more paper (magazine) sources prepared to improve this article even further, and also would produce I don't know how many more from the Internet (including Japanese/Asian) and scholarly papers because I was yet to properly search for these, I think I'd easily exceed 100 refs there. And even if not it still would be a GA sort soon. And the same thing also happened with a number of other such my articles in 2016. All without even letting me know, but of course.
'''4 - When were you first blocked? When did you receive your first indefinite block?'''
I don't remember.
I remember I used to have much trouble with what is now often called 'Putin trolls', due to my work on Chechnya-related subjects and refusing to follow Russian state propaganda and instead trying to find out and use objective truth. I was being (and still I am) privately sympathising to the cause of Chechen nationalism, even more to the plight of civilians, very much not so to the Islamism (anywhere in the world), but always strove for complete neutrality and full picture nevertheless. There's this one really stupid saying "[[Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth|Wikipedia is not about truth]]", but I tried to make it be. I've got these strong principles with this matter I still recall one guy in particular, with a username based off a certain Russian infantry weapon. There were others but I've forgotten. They would gang up on me.
:[Speaking of ideologues, I once wrote a bio for one Caucasian rebel leader named [[Anzor Astemirov]], calling him a chief ideologue of the Islamist insurgent umbrella organization he helped to create. What I meant is he was the chief ideologist. I just didn't know the difference in English. But now I checked and at least in this one instace it's got changed for a better.]
'''Have you ever been site-banned?'''
No. But the Polish Wikipedia is just really awkward. And with such a limited reach, when it could be rather a potential audience of billions of English speakers, it feels simply pointless. (It's useful for locally-important things nobody in the wider world actually cares for, I guess.)
And speaking of things being awkward, Niemti was/is a nickname of that girl I used to know. I'm not sure why typed this in as my username, but it sure was stupid, of course it was, and I understand it can be seen as creepy too but I wasn't stalking her or anything and I'm sure it was supposed to be just another temporary account. I don't think she even knows, it's not like it's an absolutely unique name. So anyway I don't feel comfortable with using it and this is why.
'''5 - When did you create, and what made you decide to create your first sock-puppet account?'''
I don't remember.
'''Approximately how many have you had in the past?'''
Would be something like a dozen or two, I think. Not including various unlogged (IP) edits.
'''Are you currently editing Wikipedia using an unidentified account?'''
No.
'''6 - Considering that your use of alternative accounts to evade blocks has been used against you in past administrative proceedings, do you in retrospect consider your history of sockpuppeting to have been a mistake? If you could go back in time would you have done things differently?'''
I'd live most of my life differently. Like maybe becoming an employee of Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
'''7 - In reviewing user behavior, some community members are more likely to consider the simple act of evading sanctions to be more significant than good editorial work that may result from these violations. How much of a factor has your evasion of the indefinite blocks placed on your various accounts been? Can you understand why other editors (some who may never have interacted with you) might focus on the evasion of your sanctions to the exclusion of the good editorial work you may have performed?'''
I would if it was about using alt accounts for the purpose of something like abuse/vandalism or vote-stuffing, or just even edit-warring.
'''8 - How difficult is it for you to operate as an editor with all of the sanction-related baggage you have accumulated?'''
Actually the treatment I received when I asked for being unblocked few months ago not only totally burned me out, but it was one of the several straws that once accumulated entirely took me into a new level of anxiety and shame and depression (some would call it despair, but really just mostly resigned apathy), in addition to my general situation including being poor and socially isolated, with ailing health, few marketable skills (and still unable getting them to use), no career to show off, and no future. Around the same time I also quit my cosplay photography after too over a decade, and previously I've stopped doing fan art as well, and had left YouTube even earlier. Nowadays I'm kinda a wreck, emotionally and otherwise. At least passive escapism still exists for me. For now. I really dread ending up homeless.
I'm not going to say something like 'Wikipedia was all I had' but I sure was addicted. At times I'd stay working on Wikipedia all day, and then all night without sleeping, and then in daze as it's day again. I'd be there in school or at work. It's also kinda weird but out I'm still collecting sources for articles out of habit.
'''What is the biggest problem for you when your sockpuppet accounts are recognized? '''
Technically, losing current watchlist and it's again typing captchas for refs.
Morally (as in morale), it's hitting to be again reminded of how I've been still wasting a big chunk of my life working free in exchange for getting open hatred and being referred to as an 'infamous troublemaker' if not openly called names (and it's always okay to mock and abuse me verbally and otherwise on-Wkipedia) while WMF people are financially profiting from this. It's been all wearing me down for years.
'''Has anyone ever tried to coerce or blackmail you by threatening to reveal the true nature of a sockpuppet account?'''
Sort of, but it was more like general doxing attempt. I didn't care and ignored it.
'''9 - As you are aware, Wikipedia operates in large part through the application of community consensus. Administrators uphold consensus-based rules and may impose sanctions on those deemed to be violating them. These sanctions are appealable and indeed you have appealed your sanctions in the past. But you have not stopped editing. Why is this?'''
Because there were ever still things to write while at the time I still believed in Wikipedia nevertheless.
Also addiction.
'''Should editors that have difficulty working alongside others be given infinite numbers of chances? Should the community make special allowances for and stay out of the way of such editors? Should your very real interest in editing Wikipedia come before the interests of others who disagree with your editorial decisions?'''
For something like 2 last years I think I've been never blocked for anything except evading being blocked in first place.
And this (infinite) block was placed the same one admin that had assigned himself to not help me but to bring me down, and as such alone issued like a dozen previous punish-blocks for often very minor infractions (such as saying “and welcome to Wikipedia” sarcastically) just because it was me, which he then used to justify for his ban (it turned out he was in no authority to issue bans - such professionalism at work - so it became an infinite block then). Plus that last ban-block was due to another, now-retired user also evidently stalking and deliberately provoking me while blatantly edit-warring (with also swearing, and zero attempts at discussions on the article where all previous attempts at discussing things have been started by me with no responses). And I know it was grudge stalking my edits from the said edit-warrior too, since it was an article on the subject he had never even remote interest neither before nor after, and proceeded to vandal-style repeatedly summarily revert a huge amount of text with dozens of references just to provoke my reaction, and finally rid of me completely after deciding banning me from his favourite subject of 'feminism broadly constructed' was not enough.
Speaking of double standards, and of “and welcome to Wikipedia” indeed. And if we speak about bans, I've never broke the 'feminism broadly constructed' ban to this day because it was a community based decision, and not summary decision from an enemy-mine block-happy admin thinking he now finally could ban me now without even knowing he can not ban anyone. Kinda comedic. Now as I said he and a couple of his buds are busy summarily purging Wikipedia of my articles without AfD or any open forum discussions.
'''10 - The current system at Wikipedia makes a significant difference between blocks and bans. Sanctioned users may be allowed to return from a block (including an indef. block) under certain circumstances according to custom. Sockpuppetry has obviously never been considered to be a valid path toward rehabilitation, but paths such as [[WP:CLEANSTART|a "Clean Start"]], [[WP:OFFER|The Standard Offer]], and [[WP:UNBAN|various]] [[WP:UNBLOCK|appeals processes]] (including direct appeal to Jimbo Wales) are available. Have you researched the options available to you, and have you tried any paths apart from appeal? What suggestions would you make to improve this process for editors like you? Should the whole system be repealed and replaced?'''
My Wikipedia misadventures actually finished with this. My long-delayed unblock requests (the first one linking just to what I've written back in 2014 during the initial abortive unblock attempt when angry on the injustice of blatant double standards) with explanations and evidence and some updates and concerns got summarily rejected as “nonsense” and just earned me more taunting, including for me finally opening up and offering honesty. In the end I was barred from using talk pages at all and sent off to the alphabet soup “WP:UTRS”, which turned out to be something called the Unblock Ticket Request System. But I sat down and wrote what I recall as a very long final post explaining everything in detail and sent it not excepting anything anymore, and of course there seemed to never be any sort of response. I don't think anyone did even read it and I could only stand it for only this long (which have been much longer than it should've been). Maybe they should've actually just openly banned me instead of this charade.
'''11 - It's apparent that you have made efforts to avoid confrontation with your more recent accounts. Is your plan to use these accounts to demonstrate your value to the community? What, if anything, is the impression you would like the community to have of you?'''
I guess these questions have been covered already.
Well, I've got this crippling fear of rejection and mockery and people including supposed 'friends' turning on me from some traumas I've experienced through my life, and it's not even paranoid as it repeats again and again and I get ever more low esteem if it's even possible now. Lately I've just given up on even trying with pretty much everything and everyone in my life, I'm only waiting for people to approach or invite or visit me first, which doesn't happen often. I'm now genuinely afraid of people in general. Became pretty damn asocial.
'''12 - There is concern in some quarters of Wikipedia that the rate of content contribution at Wikipedia is falling. Fewer new accounts are being created, and the community is growing more insular.'''
I don't know, perhaps even more paid 'edit-a-thrones' or gender studies courses doing graded classes with inserting even more bias into Wikipedia. Certainly not breaking cliques and dismantling most of the Kafkaesque, ''Brazil''-like bureaucracy.
And, in all seriousness, starting to pay people for actually good content might work. It's not like Wikipedia has no spare money (while pretending so in order to get even more each year), and there is a plenty of paid editing going on anyway. Such actual-award professional work to would have to be absolutely neutral and 100% factually accurate (including lack of important omissions), unlike much of the 'black' paid editing that exists as we speak.
Maybe I should have worked with that paid PR editing. Nothing good comes from being incorruptable on Wikipedia. It's a one unfortunate lesson.
'''How much of an impact on content do you think Wikipedia sees from editors like you (blocked or banned editors who return in violation of their sanctions)?'''
How could I even know this?
'''13 - Some of your detractors have pointed out that many of the articles you have edited fall in line with the more traditionally gendered aspects of gaming (hero saves princess,'''
I'm actually rather into 'badass' or just plain bad (evil in fiction can be cool, in reality not so much) and powerful female characters. I think the only exception I made for this was to write one for [[Princess Daphne (character)|Princess Daphne]], which I see still lacks a proper lead since I tagged it as needing one in July 2014. Pretty sure no one would ever fix it.
Yet the other gaming-princess characters whose articles I wrote are more like [[Kitana]] rebelling against her stepfather to avenge her parents and then fighting to save the man she loves (and the world), or [[Tyris Flare]] also fighting to also avenge her parents (and too to save the world), or [[Yuffie Kisaragi]] rebelling against her father to liberate her homeland (and also to save the world in the end, and more than once), or [[Kasumi (Dead or Alive)|Kasumi]] rebelling against her clan to save her brother (and perhaps to save the world eventually). Or the ''Darkstalkers'' Morrigan once again, for the most time not really very interesting in saving much of anything or anyone, at least in her own series (and unknowingly being herself a very danger to the world). The truth about video games is not what certain influential people claim it is. Don't believe them.
And my favourite Morgan's also a princess (usually), yet for hundreds of years she's been almost aways rather saving (or damning) herself. Even at most “traditionally” she's been always independent, strong-minded, wielding incredible powers, and so forth. Must be such novelty. (One of my main sources for her main article was a book titled ''Shapeshifter'' which “re-examines Morgan le Fay in early medieval and contemporary Arthurian sources, arguing that she embodies the concerns of each era even as she defies social and gender expectations [and] uses le Fay as a lens to explore traditional ideas of femininity, monstrousness, resistance, identity, and social expectations for women and men alike.” In close to a thousand years she's got a thousand faces, often completely different, and she's going to be forevermore reshaped into something very new in the future yet to come. In many stories she's indeed a shapeshifter and also being ages-old immortal and in a way she actually is, too, and I find it just fascinating.)
'''scantily clad warrior women, etc.)'''
I can see how controversial this issue can be in the intersectional-feminist heavens of San Francisco and the Islamic Republic of Iran. The latter of which is actively banning them. So progressive.
'''You are also currently banned from the topic of [[Anita Sarkeesian]] (who describes these gender stereotypes as harmful). To what extent do political considerations enter into your editing?'''
I actually always tried to be both factual and neutral. Also avoided 'feminism, broadly constructed' even since the topic ban. But I'm active with GamerGate on reddit a lot and on Twitter a bit. It's giving me some sense of purpose to go on, in the absence of Wikipedia and the other stuff.
:[This is where I come back to add something, as I just realized I've actually did write something about 'feminism, broadly constructed' on a few occasions, including when I wrote about feminist perspectives on Morgan in her article at the end with 'in modern culture'. I still love ''[[The Mists of Avalon]]'' as a book even if the book's (now-dead) author was shockingly outed by own children as a child abuser and molester together with her husband (who were being enabled and protected by the emerging 'progressive' clique in the SF fandom), which I just separate from her work as far as much possible (the passages about the child-Morgaine and her mother can be really cringe-uncomfortable, can't help much there). And so I didn't skip over her very feminist book's great and if you ask me positive influence on much of the most modern perception of Morgan despite her (Bradley) having been personally this just horrible woman, an incestous rapist pedophile. Also it just reminded me how I intended to write an article about a rather little-known book series ''[[Daughter of Tintagel]]'' (since then reprinted as just ''Morgan le Fay'') from an also little-known writer Fay Samson (she has no Wikipedia article), and which I think might be just the best Morgan fiction of them all, but alas I guess this red link of mine is just going to remain red and the only 'pedia info will forever be [http://gorddcymru.org/twilight/camelot/infopedia/d/daughteroftintagel.htm this small unfinished entry] at the Arthurian Infopedia website from the year 2000. I also planned to write proper articles for ''[[The Warlord Chronicles]]'' series, where Morgan's a pretty minor character, and very unconventional in her portrayal, but these books are just so good and their articles are so poor. Quite a shame about all that.]
As for Sarkeesian, and her kind, they can and do find things 'harmful' and 'sexist' [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRquPxdHNGE everywhere]. (Except in Islam, of course.)
'''Should Wikipedia be wary of editors accused of falling into political categories such as the Men's Rights Activists, GamerGaters, or the AltRight? Would you say that Wikipedia is currently a hostile environment for editors holding these views? Should it be?'''
I know nothing about Wikipedia's Alt-Right situation, but for the men's rights you should just check [[Portal talk:Men's rights movement]] (especially the final one of all these 6 sections since 2008) and compare it to how intersectional-feminist and 'socially just' editing is even organized and financially sponsored by WMF.
Wikipedia's GamerGate situation ('broadly constructed') is a real travesty since a clique of ideological warriors absolutely hijacked the article as an instrument to create the narrative in the way not very much unlike that 'Brazilian aardvark' hoax that became mass media 'truth' via Wikipedia. Since then, countless of so-called 'reliable source' articles including hyperlinks to Wikipedia in more circular reporting, and countless others can be seen trying to make a sense from Wikipedia's nonsensical attack-article '[[Gamergate controversy]]' (where even the very hashtag is being intentionally misspelled, in the same website where there's an article '[[bell hooks]]' with all uncapitalized letters even when everything else has the first letter capitalized title including '[[Letter]]' and '[[Capitalization]]', and where's also for example '[[Black Lives Matter]]' instead of some 'Black lives matter controversy' despite all the actual and even deadly violence and other well, controversy) to write somehow even more absurd things in what is a never ending game of telephone. Now it's done as there are thousands of 'reliable sources' spouting a fake-news mass hysteria about GG being literally terrorist fascist misogynists attacking all the women everywhere with their “grizzly violence” (a quote, one of many of its kind) and today also being some omnipotent omnipresent dark force routinely blamed for being behind everything some self-professed journalists (often rather activists/propagandists) see as the devil of the moment, from the non-existing yet so-sexist [https://www.google.pl/search?q=bernie+bros+gamergate&num=100&espv=2&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X 'Bernie Bros'], to the widely shilled [https://www.google.pl/search?q=gamergate+ghostbusters&num=100&espv=2&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X ''Ghostbusters'' remake flopping], to America supposedly [https://www.google.pl/search?q=gamergate+trump&num=100&espv=2&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X electing Literally Hitler], to the pre-emptive phantom menaces like the future sexism on Mars (as predicted by the ever-reliable source ''The Guardian''). These articles are written practically every day, for years now, and very little even neutral reporting without hyperbole and with factual information.
But if I was there instead, trying to be neutral despite my deep personal engagement, at least a language of citing obviously biased and/or sensationalist (clickbait) journalists and bloggers attacking GG (with it being a revolt against these very same journalists and bloggers) would be the properly described as 'alleged' and 'claimed' and 'accused' and 'rumored' for their unproven (and since then often proven wrong) allegations and claims and accusations and rumors. Speaking of which, here's a [https://heatst.com/culture-wars/gamergates-eron-gjoni-breaks-silence-talks-about-infamous-zoe-quinn-post-five-guys-joke/ recent interview] by [[Cathy Young]] going to the very source, and here's her earlier 2015 article [http://observer.com/2015/10/blame-gamergates-bad-rep-on-smears-and-shoddy-journalism/ “Blame GamerGate's Bad Rep on Smears and Shoddy Journalism”] which I very much recommend reading (the whole issue really shows the tragic state of journalism today, and not only the game journalism as many active in GG thought in the beginning). The starting point is and should be: it's a Twitter hashtag, it was coined up by one person an exact date for specific reason, this person happened to be the actor Adam Baldwin and [https://spectator.org/63898_happy-anniversary-gamergate-love-adam-baldwin/ this an article where he explains everything]. I can see that the fake news regarding the "[[Bernie Bro]]s" media hoax are being treated correctly as in indicating it's been just a lie from corrupt journalists doubling as propagandists, which as it happens only helped their politically-aligned side actually lose an election (not unlike the ugly pseudo-journalistic campaign promoting the remake of ''Ghostbusters'', including [https://www.google.pl/search?q=Angry+Video+Game+Nerd+ghostbusters&num=100&espv=2&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X a shockingly unprovoked and massive attack on the character] of James 'Angry Video Game Nerd' Rolfe, singled out as a target for merely stating he's not going to review a movie, only helped to sink this film). As for GG today, which still exists unlike the Bernie Bros who never did, actually it's about ethics in all journalism.
And meanwhile at Wikipedia, these handful few very dedicated fearless social justice warriors who with their backup in high places managed to hound away a great number of other editors through their connections, and who nevertheless eventually mostly still got themselves kicked out sinceb - including one who got indefed for paid editing on GG and another for actively harassing off-site a fellow anti-GG editoadmin who was just not extreme enough for him (by trying to actually be neutral) after also having organized attacks on Wikipedia itself in several mass media outlets (''The Guardian'' and Gawker's The Mary Sue among them, of course) - hose were the now-disgraced people who have been instrumental in this great mass media (but with politicians getting into action too, including the UN) scaremongering on the scale not seen in the entertainment industry since the film/game violence panic of the 1980s/1990s (and the vast Satanic panic, partially interconnected with the gaming via ''Dungeons & Dragons''). And here anti-GG including a number of admins and/or WMF employees would also attack the high-profile 'GamerGaters' like [[Christina Hoff Sommers]] or [[Brad Wardell]] (here's [https://twitter.com/draginol/status/751580498539978752 him talking about it] with a relevant response from [[Liana Kerzner]], who btw just made [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOiXBzDmLJk#t=3m10s this video today about how GG is continued to be so misreported]) through their own WP:OMGBLP articles. The rest of the administration and Jimbo Wales personally knew about all this, but let most of it happen, and now this already is too late regarding most. So congratulations, Wikipedia. It was perhaps your biggest failing in your history, or at least the biggest that I know about.
So it seems these were all the questions. (There was some more I skipped as that would be just more "I don't remember".) It was actually surprising someone even approached and asked me them considering the treatment I've been long given and got used to. I didn't try to be purposely edgy as much as just being sincere about everything. I then gave it a rewrite with a total honesty because I don't give a damn about anything anymore. Much of this was probably quite a cautionary story of what to not do in life to not lose it all, figuratively and literally.
I kinda feel a little better now.
Happy New Year you guys.
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HOUSE PARTY 8/29/16 [pt 2/3]

The spiked cleat explodes into the side of Jimmy Junior’s head and blood splatters everywhere. The young Chonga falls lifeless to the mat in a pool of his own blood while the Young Cucks “too sweet” and celebrate.
Paisner: This just isn’t right…
Crowd: FUCK THE YOUNG CUCKS!!
Paisner: Dick Johnson with the lateral press. We have new tag team champions!
1…
2…
3!
JIMMY CHONGA DRAGS DICK JOHNSON TO THE OUTSIDE BREAKING UP THE PIN!!
Crowd: YAAAAAY!!!
A one legged Chonga drags Dick to the outside and blasts him with an overheard right as he hops on one leg. Chonga then hits another. And another. Mike Johnson seeing his brother getting potatoed runs to the ropes and leaps over, landing on the apron. He charges at the back of Jimmy Chonga and penalty kicks him right in the back of the head.
Crowd: BOOOOOOOOO!!
Mike leaps down off the apron and gets on his hands and knees beside Jimmy Chonga Senior as he tries to will himself back to his feet, trying to pull himself up by apron skirt.
Mike Johnson: YOU’RE FUCKING PATHETIC CHONGA! YOU’RE NOT EVEN A HAS BEEN! YOU’RE A NEVER WAS! YOU AIN’T SHIT! YOUR KID AIN’T SHIT! AND WRESTLING IS REDDIT CAN EAT OUR SHIT!
Paisner: HEY!
Mike slaps Jimmy Chonga across the face causing it turn beet red. Mike and Dick “too sweet” again before Dick sizes Chonga up for another Super-Cuck.
Woodbridge: Oh God… now they’re going to bust Jimmy Chonga wide open!
Dick’s spiked cleat foot surges forward – but Jimmy Chonga catches the super kick attempt and throws it right into the face of Mike Johnson busting him wide open.
Crowd: YAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!!
Paisner: What a reversal by Big Poppa Chonga!
Dick Johnson looks down at his brother, the blood pumping out of the side of his face. Before he can think to do anything Jimmy Chonga launches himself with his one good leg into Dick Johnson with a shoulder block knocking the back of his head into the ringpost. Chonga rolls Dick Johnson into the ring then gingerly climbs up onto the ring apron. The older Chonga stands up on the ring apron and tries to put some weight down on his calf, but it almost immediately buckles and he just barely hangs onto the top rope so as not to fall to the outside.
Woodbridge: That leg is in bad shape, Pais.
Paisner: WiR Junior Junior Official Ivan Itchicock is asking Jimmy Chonga if he can continue and the elder Chonga swats him away! Here comes Dick Johnson! SUPER-CUCK!
Dick tries to take Chonga’s head off with that soccer cleat assisted superkick but Chonga avoids it as if he were in the Matrix, pulling on the top rope as hard as he can and bending his body backwards to narrowly avoid the sharpened cleat.
Crowd: YAAAAAAY!!
Jimmy Chonga lets go of the top rope just as he pulled it back to its apex, as far as it can go. The rope snaps forward like a slingshot and catches Dick Johnson square in the face as Jimmy Chonga Senior falls flat on his back on the outside.
Woodbridge: Fuck! Steel cable to the face can’t feel too fuckin’ great.
Paisner: Dick Johnson is stunned! He stumbles backwards... right into Jimmy Junior! Junior school boys him!
1….
2….
KICK OUT!
Paisner: Dick scrambles to his feet! Super-Cuck attempt! Jimmy Junior rolls underneath! Johnson spins around – TEQUILA! (Beauty Shot/Spinning Heel Kick)
Crowd: YAAAAAY!!
Woodbridge: What are you doing!?! PIN HIM, KID!
Jimmy Junior looks completely out of it. He pulls himself up by the ropes, blood oozing down his face as he does his best to regulate his breathing. He looks back at Dick Johnson then up at the top rope and with a burst of energy begins to make his way up to the top.
Woodbridge: Jimmy Junior looking to put this away!
Paisner: Will we see the 450 Salsa Splash!? Junior reaches the top rope and pauses for a moment to cross his heart and blow a kiss to the sky. He leaps... Paisner: OH MY GOD! 630 SENTON!!!
Crowd: HOLY SHIT! HOLY SHIT! HOLY SHIT!
Paisner: Jimmy Junior for the win!
1…
Mike Johnson slides into the ring!
2…
Jimmy Chonga grabs his boot and pulls him back!
3!!
DING DING DING
Crowd: YAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!
Babaganoush: Your winners at a time of 20:09… and STIIIILLLLLLLLLLL WiR TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS OF THE WORLD! LOS CHONGAS!!!!!!!!!!
Jimmy Junior crawls across the mat to his father, who is just barely holding himself up outside the ring with help from the ring apron. Jimmy Junior sticks his head through the ropes and the father and son tag team put their heads together and let the tears flow freely as Ritche Valens “La Bamba” plays in the background, the entire Southern California crowd singing along.
Crowd: PARA BAILAR LA BAMBA! PARA BAILAR LA BAMBA! SE NECESITA UNA POCA DE GRACIA! UNA POCA DE GRACIA PA MI PA TI, Y ARRIBA ARRIBA!
Paisner: My God what a hellacious match! The Young Cucks gave it their all but in the end WiR’s most decorated tag team, the lovable Los Chongas take the victory!
Woodbridge: An encounter of epic fucking proportions, Pais. Jimmy Chonga and his son fought tooth and nail. And never once did they surrender to defeat on this day. What do they always? Los Chongas never say die?
Paisner: Nunca dicen la muerte!
Jimmy Junior rolls to the outside to help his father limp to the back as Ivan Itchicock fetches their tag team gold. The two lucha warriors pause for a moment before they reach the back to look out into the crowd still erupting over the classic match they just witnessed.
Crowd: LOS CHONGAS! LOS CHONGAS! LOS CHONGAS!
Woodbridge: Los Chongas hung onto the gold this time, but that leg of Jimmy Chonga isn’t going to hold up forever. My advice, enjoy it while it lasts.
Paisner: Way to be a Debbie Downer, Mark. Folks we’ll be right back with more hot WiR action as this House Party rages on!
[COMMERCIAL]
Scentless Apprentice plays through the speakers as Tyler Dylan comes out with a microphone
Paisner: Oh god, here we go this week
Tyler: Cut my fucking music
Crowd: BOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Tyler slides into the ring
Tyler: I want that flower loving loser, out here right now!!!!!!
Fan: I hate you Tyler!!!!!!!
Tyler: Really?!? You hate me? I hope your kids die in a fucking fire!
Woodbridge: Oh come on, that's not necessary.
Crowd: BOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
The fan tries to jump over the barricade, but the security is there to stop him
Tyler: Fucking loser. Hippie John get your pot smoking ass to this ring RIGHT NOW!!!
Hippie Life plays through the speakers, as Hippie John walks to the ring with a blunt
Crowd: YEAHHHH
Paisner: Here comes Hippie John!
Tyler slides out of the ring and goes right after Hippie John, Dylan kicks him in the mid section and throws him into the ring
Tyler: Where the fuck is the ref? Come on!!!!
referee Tai Na Wong comes out from the curtains, to call this match
Tyler: Thank you.
DING DING DING
Dylan charges John with kicks and punches, Dylan stops and yells
Tyler: TYE DYE BAYBAY!!!!!!
Woodbridge: I really hate Tyler.
Paisner: Don't we all?
Crowd: BOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Hippie John sneaks behind Tyler and rolls him up for the count
1!!!!!
2!!!!!!
kick out
Crowd: OHHHHHHHHHHH
Paisner: John with the 2 count, I thought we were about see Tyler lose again.
Woodbridge: If he lost he would want another rematch.
Tyler kicks John in the gut and goes for Drain You
Crowd: OHHHHHHHHHHHH
Paisner: Will Hippie John tap?
Hippie John struggles to not tapping out, but he can't help it
DING DING DING
Woodbridge: Well this was fun.
Javier: And the winner of this match at the time of 38 seconds TYLEER DYYLLAN!!!!!
Crowd: BOOOOOOO!
Tyler slides out of the ring and goes to the back as some of the refs help John to the back
Paisner: Wonder what's going to happen next week.
Woodbridge: Possibly another call out.
COMMERCIAL
Paisner: Well, ladies and gentlemen, do we have a match for you? An NYS veteran against one of the rising stars of WiR.
Woodbridge: I’m more stoked than the rats that live in the Coffee Boys’ mobile coffee shop.
Paisner: I’ll have you know that coffee shop is the cleanest in the land.
Javier: The following contest is scheduled for ONE FALL! Introducing first, from London, England, weighing 218 pounds, BRENDAN BYRNE!
Guns of Brixton hits the sound system as Byrne stomps out from backstage. He looks focused, more so than normal. He walks down to the ring, high fiving a few fans, before climbing on the apron, wiping his feet off, and stepping between the ropes.
Paisner: Byrne focused today, after his altercation with Flash last week. Look at the determination in his eyes.
Woodbridge: Well, the guy wants to wrestle a match, can you blame him?
Javier: AND HIS OPPONENT... From Austin, Texas, weighing 197 pounds, STEVE MANCHESTER!
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GusLypfx7OQ](Manchester’s music) begins to play as Steve Manchester comes out from backstage, bouncing from one foot to the other, playing up to the fans. He high fives fans as he walks down to the ring.
Paisner: And Byrne needs to be focused as his opponent tonight is a NYS veteran and one of the greatest tag wrestlers in the business.
Woodbridge: And he knows it, look at him grandstand!
Manchester slides in the ring, poses on a corner, before hopping down and looking at Byrne. The two shake hands as Tai Ni Wong calls for the bell.
Paisner: These 2 have the utmost respect for each other. Manchester said in an interview he was honoured to be here, and Brendan, well he just wants a good clean fight.
DING DING DING
The 2 circle each other, as they look for the opening to strike with the collar and elbow. They lock up, trying to out muscle each other. The stronger, heavier Byrne gets the advantage, and goes behind for the hammerlock. He wrenches it in tight, then transitions straight into a wrenching headlock. Byrne goes to ground, locking in the solid headlock, while Manchester desperately claws at the arm, trying to find the opening. He finds his way under Byrne’s arm, throwing a couple of solid elbows to the chest, before backing off into the ropes. Launching off the ropes, London goes to run them, but Byrne keeps the headlock cinched in, and the 2 go to ground again.
Paisner: Quality control here from the Londoner.
Woodbridge: He has Manchester right where he wants him: in that headlock. But Manchester’s quick, and he’s smart. He knows he has to keep that energy he has reserved for when he gets in control.
Manchester squirms left and right, and gets to his knees. He hooks Brendan’s head, and sends him flying arse over head with a squatting fireman’s carry. Both men get to their feet, but Manchester reacts first, hitting Byrne with a solid kick to the mid section. He runs the ropes, but Byrne chases him/ The Brit holds his arm out for a clothesline, but Manchester is too fast, and simultaneously leans back and flips over, taking Byrne over with a beautiful running Spanish Fly! The American leaps to his feet, and immediately backflips straight onto Byrne! Shooting Star! Pin!
1!
2!
NO!
Paisner: Manchester with an impressive series of flips!
Woodbridge: 15 year veteran, hasn't lost any of it!
Paisner: Any of what?
Woodbridge: It!
Manchester slowly picks his opponent up, and whips him into the ropes. Manchester stays put, as Byrne runs towards him, before he ducks down at the last second. Byrne runs at him again, but Manchester this time leapfrogs over The third time, Byrne leaps over a Manchester that is telegraphing the back body drop, but when he goes to grab the legs to roll him up, he misses. Unfortunately, the overwhelming empathy of Manchester causes him to over balance and he falls into the pin anyway.
1!
NO!
Both men get to their feet, but Byrne is quicker, and nails Manchester in the jaw with a superkick! While Manchester is reeling, Byrne hits the ropes, and chop blocks Manchester’s base from under him, sending him crashing to the ground. He then grabs Manchester's leg, and twists it around. Manchester squirms and shuffles as Byrne grabs the twisted leg under his arm, and drops the ground, giving his leg the DDT!
Paisner: Innovative offense by the Londoner!
Woodbridge: You can’t do the 450 without your legs.
Byrne keeps a hold of the leg, as he gets to his feet again, and slowly turns Manchester over onto his front, locking in a solid ankle lock.
Crowd: TAP! TAP! TAP!
Manchester squirms, and strains and reaches. The pain builds and builds until finally he reaches the ropes, and Byrne is forced to let go.
Paisner: Byrne is excelling right now. He’s firmly in control.
Byrne lets Machester get to his feet, but he obviously is favouring his left ankle after that devastating hold, but hits him with a strong open fist! Manchester rallies back, but Byrne responds with an uppercut! He bounces off the opposite ropes, but Manchester follows, and hits Byrne with a standing dropkick that would make Katsumiku Okato jealous!
Crowd: OOOOOH!
Manchester gets Byrne to his feet, then throws him back over with a huge Northern Lights suples. They crash to the mat, but he’s not done: Manchester rolls through, and picks Byrne up, before dropping him back to the mat with a falcon arrow!
Crowd: OOOOOH!
Woodbridge: What a maneuver! Beautiful offense from the vet!
Manchester gets to his feet, still favouring the ankle. He looks down at Byrne, just feet from the corner, then he looks to the top rope, then to Byrne, then to the top rope. He leaps the ropes, and ascends to the top turnbuckle. He looks down at Byrne, adjusts his hair, and launches off into a 450!
Paisner: Byrne gets up the knees! And Manchester crashes down to Earth in a big way! Knees right to the midsection! Byrne rolls away, as Manchester doubles over in pain, it courses through his abdomen. The Londoner retreats to the opposing corner, waiting for his opponent to get to his feet, before launching across the ring! He hits the seated dropkick to Manchester, who hits the bottom turnbuckle hard.
Woodbridge: Byrne has turned this match around and, what is he doing? He’s going to the top rope!
Paisner: Could he be looking for the 450 now?
Byrne gingerly ascends to the top rope, then stands high above the ring. He looks down at his opponent, a brief glimpse of doubt, and then…
Paisner: WAIT A MINUTE! IS THAT…
Jack Flash hops the barricade, and runs over to the turnbuckle where Byrne is. They lock eyes for a brief second, before Flash pushes Byrne off the rop and to the floor!
Crowd: BOOOOOOOOO!
DING DING DING!
Javier: Ladies and gentlemen, this match has been ruled a No Contest!
Crowd: DOUBLE BOOOOOOOOOOO!
Flash runs over to the fallen Byrne, and mounts him, laying in punches to the face and head. He takes the chain off from around his neck, and wraps it around his fist, before punching him some more.
Flash: Am I not good enough for you Brenda?!? AM I NOT GOOD ENOUGH? DO I NOT AMUSE YOU? AM I GOOD ENOUGH YET?!
He takes the chain from around his fist, and puts it over Byrne’s bloodied and bruised head, feeding it into his mouth, while rolling the prone Englishman onto his front. He grabs the chain, and wrenches back, locking in the Future Endeavours with a chain pulling Byrne’s mouth apart!
Paisner: Oh fuck off Flash! This is horrible!
Woodbridge: Byrne is bleeding out here! Where are the referees?
Finally, the cacophony of idiots who wave their hands at wrestlers to stop them doing whatever devious thing they’re doing at the time persuade Flash to stop killing Byrne, and escort him to the back, as he poses and taunts the crowd.
COMMERCIAL
We return to the ring to see a competitor from the local indie scene stood in the ring, awaiting his opponent.
Javier: The following contest is set for one fall! Ivan Undersach is your referee. Introducing first, fighting out of Hillsboro, Oregon, hailing from Birmingham Alabama, Tony Xavier! (Xaverian11) And his opponent...
Sink hits and from behind the curtain comes Kyle Scott, adorned in his trench coat, of course he also wields his staff. He marches to ring and slides under the rope
Javier: From Leeds, England, weighing in at 200 pounds, he is the God King of WiR-
Kyle whispers something in Javier's ear
Javier: ..and the uh, next Khan of Mongolia, Kyle Scott
Crowd: BOOOOOOOOOOOO
Kyle: Boo me more motherfuckers! It turns me on!
The crowd lets out a noise of disgust, though a few desperate members continue to boo.
Paisner: Those people must have some twisted fetishes
Woodbridge: You'd know huh?
DING! DING! DING!
The rookie Tony charges at Kyle, who manages to dodge his puny frame, before turning around where they catch each other in a collar and elbow tie up.
Crowd Member: Hey Ivan I fucked your mom last night!
Paisner: The classiness of the citizens of Hillsboro on display here tonight
Kyle forces his opponent towards the ropes, almost pushing him over and out of the ring before the ref begins to count
1!
2!
3!
4!
Scott breaks his grip and does the classic "hands up" pose to show it. Kyle begins running his mouth at Undersach while Xavier regains his composure. He grabs a hold of Kyle's shoulder and spins him around, only to be met with a skull shattering headbutt, the sound of which ricochets through the stands.
Crowd: OOOOOOHHHHHHH!
Woodbridge: Holy shit did you hear that? He's gotta be busted open!
Kyle: Wait your fucking turn!
Kyle returns to berating Undersach for his poor referring. The words can't be heard, but we can only assume insults are being thrown. In the meantime Xavier slides himself to the corner of the ring, leaving a faint trail of blood in his wake. Kyle notices and charges towards him, driving his foot into the already broken face of Tony Xavier, whipping his neck back!
Crowd: HOLY SHIT! HOLY SHIT! HOLY SHIT!
Woodbridge: This is brutal!
Paisner: The only offence this guy even had was touching Kyle on the shoulder
Kyle screams in his opponents face. The words? Nobody knows, Swahili perhaps. Maybe an indication of his future conquests. He continues his tirade while repeatedly leathering Xavier with kicks, clubbed fists and knee strikes, the majority aimed at his head.
Kyle: How's your nose now, eh? Gonna sing us a fucking song?
Paisner: Looks like he threw a Violence Party but only Tony was invited!
Woodbridge: sigh
He spits in the face of his opponent as the ref pulls him away. A raucous crowd member erupts once again.
Crowd member: You stink Itchicock! We want home run Harry!
Other fella: IIIII-VAN, IIIII-VAN
Both: IIIII-VAN, IIIII-VAN
Itchicock wipes a tear from his eye, in which you can see the existential crisis occurring his mind. He falls to the mat lifeless and Kyle takes advantage of this opportunity to grab a chair from ringside and go to work on his facial reconstruction of Tony Xavier, who is still slumped in a corner with even more blood dripping from his nose. He throws the chair into his face before diving at it with two feet, wrapping it around his skull!
Crowd: OOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Kyle retrieves the chair and continuously bashes it into Xavier's already broken skull, warping the metal into a variety of shapes before throwing it into the dead centre of the ring. Scott tries dragging Xavier to his feet, but his effort is futile as he just collapses back to the floor. Seeing this Kyle drags his lifeless (literally) body from the corner and slams his head down on the chair.
Paisner: Oh Jesus
Scott ties up Xaviers legs in the Indian deathlock, he clubs his ribs, forcing his opponents arms into the air, which Kyle grabs a hold of, using them to drive Xaviers head into the corrupted steel! The two troublesome crowd members reveal themselves to be, of course, Terry and Barry, the Royal Guards. The rush the field, Barry disposes of the chair while Terry brings Ivan back to his feet just in time to count the pin fall!
1!
2!
3!
DING! DING! DING!
Woodbridge: Well... I wouldn't call it a match by any standards. But it certainly happened
Javier: The winner of this match, in a time of 3:55, the God King of WiR, Kyle Scott!
Sink hits as-
Kyle: Cut the music we're not done here! Xavier, Tony, Anthony, whatever the fuck you call yourself. You've been bad mouthing our company, something I don't think the rest of the locker room knows about, fuck, I don't even think they'd care!
Tony somehow manages to roll on to his back to hear Kyle's words
Kyle: But me? I don't think so. This is MY company! It has been since day one, because I'm the only fucker left from back then. And as much as I hate most of the cunts that have come here to cohabitate with me, I'm sure as hell going to defend it.
Paisner: What on earth is he talking about?
Kyle: Dammit Paisner, have you people not realised I have fucking tremendous hearing? I'm talking about making an example out of this little weasel, and sending a warning to the Young Cardinals. Boys.
Terry and his partner manage to drag Xavier up and towards the ropes. The each pull a pair of handcuffs from their pockets and secure him to the ropes, before throwing him over, much like a crucifixion. Kyle slowly makes his way over, while removing something from his trunks
Kyle: See, Mr. Xavier, see what happens when you mess with the institution that is Wrestling is Reddit. When you screw with the Mongolian Death Squad. When you FUCK with the God that is Kyle Scott. It comes back to bite you in the fucking arse, except it's not a bite in the arse per se.
Kyle presents a paper bag, with some kind of writing on it
Kyle: Instead, it's a broken nose pouring blood, which covers your now disfigured face. It's being humiliated on a broadcast seen worldwide. It's being cuffed to a fucking ring rope while wearing a paper bag that says Dalidus Nova on it.
He places the bag over the mans head, while encircling his neck with duct tape to keep it secure
Kyle: This, Mr. Xavier, for you, is a punishment. And Dalidus Nova, Young Cardinals... It's a fucking warning.
[COMMERCIAL]
COMMERCIAL
Javier: The following match is a tag-team match, scheduled for one fall! Your official for this bout will be Ivan Itchicock.
Woodbridge: Tonight we get to see the grand debut of the British team of Adrian Hale & Rhs Abbott, known across the UK as the Swords of Lancashire!
Paisner: These two guys already have some bad blood with Dalidus Nova, due to an argument that had in the nation of Mongolia. Not exactly sure how that happened, but who cares! Wrestling time!
Young Cardinals by Alexisonfire booms over the sound system, as Joey McCarty and Dalidus Nova appear from behind a cheap curtain. Some fans in attendance cheer for the two men, slightly more than the week before.
Paisner: Well, it seems like the WiR fans are slowly changing their opinions on the Young Cardinals. I wonder how the Mongolian Death Squad feels about the fans picking their favorite, and having it not be them?
Woodbridge: Well, seeing as these guys seem to be getting their asses kicked by the MDS on a weekly basis, I'm not exactly surprised that these people are starting to feel for the Cardinals.
Javier: And now approaching the ring, at a combined weight of 626 pounds, the team of Dalidus Nova and Joey McCarty: THE YOOOOUNG CAAAARDINALS!
Dalidus and Joey are about to slide into the ring, but suddenly Rhys Abbott and Adrian Hale rush up behind them, and jump them! Rhys starts to deliver loud chops and knee strikes to Joey McCarty, while Adrian grabs Dalidus's head and slams it into the ring apron, before throwing him into a metal ring pole!
Crowd: Ooooooh! Booooooo!
Woodbridge: Well, these two DID say they were going to take over WiR, and this seems like step one!
Fans yell insults at the Swords of Lancashire, but the two men completely ignore them, as they continue their assault on the Cardinals. After a few minutes of the brutal attack, the two men force Dalidus and Joey into the ring, before rolling in themselves.
Paisner: Why does everyone hate the Cardinals?
Woodbridge: According to the guys in the locker room, they're cucks. I'm not entirely sure what that means, but It can't be good.
Ivan Itchicock is in the ring, checking on Joey and Dalidus. He asks the two men if they are capable of competing in this match, to which Joey immediately said yes, not wanting to back away from any challenges. Dalidus nods in agreement, and slowly crawls onto the ring apron, as Joey pulls himself to his feet using the ring ropes.
Paisner: Oh, this doesn't seem smart...
Ivan takes one more look at the Young Cardinals, before deciding to let them compete. Adrian Hale is already in the ring, bouncing from foot-to-foot, waiting for the bell to ring.

DING DING DING!

Joey and Hale rush eachother, but Hale is able to snatch Joey's arm quickly, and throws him over with an Arm Drag. Hale holds onto Joey's arm after hitting the move, applying pressure and causing Joey to desperately try to free himself. He manages to struggle free, and uses his size to shove Hale away for long enough to get back to his feet.
Woodbridge: Joey and Dalidus are coming into this match with a severe disadvantage after that mauling from the SOL.
Paisner: I don't understand why those two accepted to continue this match afterwards! They have a huge battle coming up with the Mongolian Death Squad in a few weeks, why risk an injury now?
Adrian Hale rushes Joey, who sidesteps when Adrian goes for a running shotgun dropkick, sending Adrian down to the mat. He sits up, and Joey shoots a kick towards his chest, but Adrian ducks under it, and grabs hold of Joey's leg, before using it to yank Joey down to the mat. Adrian tries to lock in a Leg Lock but Joey quickly kicks him off.
Woodbridge: These two guys are extremely good when it comes to mat-based, submission wrestling. They say that for every second they've got you locked in a submission is a year of your life you'll lose.
Paisner: Who says that? Sounds like someone a crackhead physic would say.
Both men get up at about the same time once again, and Joey gives a quick jab to the side of Adrian's head, stunning him for long enough for Joey to get a flurry going. His punches increase in strength and speed, before he grabs Adrian's arm, and Irish Whips him into the rope, connecting with a Clothesline when he returns!
Crowd: Ooooooooh!
Paisner: Joey and Dalidus are out here with a vengeance tonight. After the assault from the MDS last week, and having their partner Miles Alpha screwed over earlier tonight, they're not taking any prisoners!
Adrian is laid out on the mat, and Joey swiftly covers him, hooking the right leg.
1...!
2...!
Right at the two count, Adrian gets the shoulder up. Joey looks a bit frustrated, but takes a deep breath, and recovers from his anger. He looks over to his corner, and signals to Dalidus to get ready to fight, before pulling Adrian up to his feet, and practically throwing Hale into the Cardinals corner.
Woodbridge: If there's only place you don't want to be in a tag-team match, it's the other teams corner.
Once Hale is in the corner, Joey tags Dalidus into the match. Dalidus gets into the ring, and shoots a knee into the abdomen of Hale to keep him there. Nova backs up, takes aim, and rushes Adrian in the corner, hitting a gutbusting Corner Spear.
Paisner: Ooh! That's just a piece of the new maneuver's Dalidus has been bringing to his arsenal in preparation for Battlefield: Mongolia.
Woodbridge: But Nova has to be careful and make sure he doesn't do too much too quickly. We saw what happened last week when he tried a top-rope DDT, a decision that almost costed him the match.
Hale drops to his knee's after the spear and Dalidus quickly locks in a headlock. Hale pushes Nova off of him, and Nova uses the push as momentum, running the ropes and slamming into Hale with a clothesline! The British technician gets back up to his feet in a flash, only to get knocked right back down with a second Clothesline!
Woodbridge: Dalidus is going off! Hale doesn't know what to do right now!
Adrian gets up a third time, and Dalidus swings for the third Clothesline. This time, however, Adrian saw it coming, and grabs Dalidus's arm, using his momentum to swing himself around Nova, eventually locking in an Armbar.
Crowd: Woooahh!
Paisner: Amazing display of athleticism! Adrian Hale now with a submission locked in! This could be over in mere nanoseconds!
Dalidus attempts to power out of the hold, with little success. He then tries to roll Hale onto his shoulders for a pinfall, but he can't get that to work either. All the while, Adrian adds more and more pressure into the Armbar, and Nova starts to get desperate. He frantically grasps and pulls with his free limbs towards the ropes, slowly making progress as fans in the arena cheer him on.
Woodbridge: Nova should just tap out now! Save his arm for the Mongolian Death Squad!
Paisner: There's no way in hell that Nova is even thinking thoughts like those. He's going to go until that arm snaps if he has to. Which, it very well might!
Nova is almost at the rope, but Hale notices. He releases the Armbar, but still holds onto the arm. Hale drags at Nova, pulling him back into the center of the ring. Again, he goes for the Armbar, but before he can lock it in fully, Nova is able to succeed in rolling him up, and pins both shoulders down on the mat.
1...!
2...!
No! Adrian is forced to let go of Nova's arm in order to kickout. Hale scurries into his corner, and tags in Rhys, who rushes at Nova. Nova grabs him by the thigh and hip, before tripping him over and making him slam his face into the turnbuckle! Rhys's head snaps back from the impact, and Nova uses this brief moment to tag in Joey!
Woodbridge: Joey's back into this fight! This is a bad time to be Rhys Abbott!
Joey gets behind Abbott, and wraps his arms around Abbott's waist, before slamming him backwards with an impact German Suplex!
Paisner: Joey taking Rhys to the Suplex State!
Woodbridge: ...The What?
Rhys rolls backwards onto his knees, before hopping up to his feet. Joey grabs him in a wristlock, before throwing him at the ropes with an Irish Whip. Rhys ducks under a Shoulder Block attempt from Joey, and stops his momentum in the middle of the ring, as Joey keeps running the ropes, eventually running right into a Slingblade!
Crowd: Oooooh!
Joey hits the mat hard, leaving Rhys with full control. Abbott leans back on the ring ropes, resting up and waiting for Joey to stagger to his feet. Once he does, Abbott hits him from behind with a huge Shotgun Dropkick, which sends him face first into the Swords of Lancashire ring corner!
Paisner: Well, Abbott is now returning the favor from earlier in this match!
Woodbridge: Now Abbott tagging in Hale, and these two guys work perfectly in situations like these.
Hale gets into the ring, and gives a massive chop to Joey's chest! Hale attempts to throw Joey over his shoulder with a Snapmare, but the Canadian still has some fight left in him, and delivers a stiff knee to Hale's back, before giving a Back Elbow to Abbott on the ring apron!
Woodbridge: Joey's getting out of it! He's escaping!
Hale is in the middle of the ring, still in pain from the knee strike, when Joey runs at him, Hale is able to grab hold of his head, and drops into a Jawbreaker! Joey backs off, allowing Hale to his feet.
Paisner: So far, I've gotta say, I'm extremely impressed with the Swords of Lancashire. These two are proving themselves as a legitimate tag team here tonight!
Woodbridge: They started this match less-than-peacefully, but now they've been doing a pretty solid job in this bout.
Joey looks dazed by the ropes, trying to shake off the pain from this fight. Meanwhile, Adrian Hale stands in the center of the ring, and he pulls the kneepad off his right Knee, getting it ready for his finishing maneuver.
Paisner: It looks like Hale is going for his finishing knee strike, known as the Flight 103!
Woodbridge: According to WrestlePedia, there isn't a single person to have every kicked out of this move! The Swords might make their debut into a victory!
Crowd: Ooooooh...
Joey starts to slowly walk towards Hale, still looking out of it. Hale gives a booming yell, before running at Joey, full speed! However, the scream has backfired on Hale, as it helped Joey to snap out of his state, and parry to the right, dodging past the Flight 103 and sending Hale down to the mat!
Crowd: ...Wooooo! Lets-Go-Jo-ey! Lets-Go-Jo-ey!
Hale is somehow able to get up to his feet speedily, but Joey is stalking behind him, waiting for his moment to strike, and he finds it when Hale turns around. Joey gives a short kick to the abdomen of Hale, before underhooking both of Hale's arms, and dropping him right on his skull with an Underhook DDT!
Paisner: 5 Minute Major! His skull may be cracked in half! Jeezus!
Joey pulls Hale up to his feet, not giving him any recovery time. He reaches over to his own corner, and tags in Dalidus, before getting underneath Adrian Hale, and forcing him high into the air, finally slamming him in the chest with a Pop-Up European Uppercut!
Woodbridge: THERE IT IS! AND HERE COMES...
Hale stays on his feet, but looks completely unaware of whats happening around him, as Dalidus bounces off the rope in front of Hale, before leaping up and connecting in the jaw with his Shotgun Kick!
Woodbridge: SHOTGUN KICK FROM DALIDUS!
Paisner: The Cardinals hit their team finisher, From The North! Dalidus with the cover on Hale!
1...!
2...!
3...!

DING DING DING!

Paisner: And it's over! The Young Cardinals manage to come back from that vicious assault early on, and took the "W" here tonight!
Javier: Your winners via pinfall, at a time of 14:39: The team of Joey McCarty and Dalidus Nova... THE YOUNG CARDINALS!
♫ Despair to the point 'till they provoke, the punchline before they have heard the joke! ♫
Woodbridge: Of course! Why am I even surprised!
Logan Lee and Kyle Scott start to run towards the ring, right at the weakened Dalidus and Joey. They put their fists up preparing for a fight, but from behind, Adrian Hale and Rhys Abbott smash them from behind with Steel Chairs! Kyle slides into the ring first, and hands both men a large wad of British Pounds.
Paisner: Kyle Scott is paying off the Swords! What are they, hitmen?
Woodbridge: Right now, they may as well be!
The Swords shake hands with the MDS, before exiting the ring with their cash, leaving the Steel Chairs inside. Logan picks up both chairs, while Kyle demands Javier's microphone for the second week in a row.
Kyle: Now now now, everyone calm down. We're not here to hurt anybody. Yet.
Kyle takes one of the chairs Logan is holding, opens it up, and takes a seat, looking down on the Cardinals laying on the mat.
Kyle: Now, as you are all aware, I, your God King, and my right hand man, will be doing you all a favor and bringing waste to the Cardinal menace in a few weeks time at Something Different.
Crowd: Booooooooo! Fuck You Kyle! Fuck You Kyle!
Kyle: You can scream and shout whatever you want at me! Because this has nothing to do with any of you. No no, it has to to with those watching from their homes in the soon-to-be-glorious nation of Mongolia. This is a message from me, your future leader, to you. So listen up.
Paisner: Can someone cut that mic before we get sued for war crimes?
Kyle: You see, the man below me...
Kyle gives a kick to Dalidus with his toe.
Kyle: ... Is supposedly the Military Chief of your country. Why? This is the man that can barely beat two lackeys, and you've put him in charge of your guns? your missiles? your tanks?!? Blasphemy! I wouldn't even put him in charge of a Preschool classroom!
Kyle: So, here's whats gonna happen. Cover your ears if you don't like spoilers, kids. At Something Different, live in the biggest stadium in Mongolia, The Mongolian Death Squad will take on The Young Cardinals. Anything goes. No rules. No ring. The only way to win? Incapacitating the ENTIRE other team. And if that wasn’t enough: the losing team may NEVER enter the country again! They must leave forever! But speaking of leaving, that’s exactly what I’m going to do now. But trust me, we'll see you next week.
Kyle tosses the mic over his shoulder, and it lands on the mat behind him, making very loud feedback. Kyle exits the ring, but Logan stays behind to deliver a few strong steel chair blows to the Young Cardinals in the ring, before following behind Kyle.
Paisner: ...Well...Seems like a shitty time for the Mongolians.
Woodbridge: Yeah, but seems like one hell of a good fight for us!
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